Frustrating.

Maybe someone can help me because I can't figure out how to do this with the new interface.

Suck Creek in TN does not have any sort of internet gauge so I do not want to add one but this seems to be the only option available. All I want to do is change the wording in the flow section to reflect the fact that the stream bed has changed and the old readings on the gauge are no longer relevant and as we get the levels figured out again I'll update with the new levels. This is all on a visual gauge at the river.

ok now even worse!

I went to the stream, clicked edit, then clicked flows, then went to the comments section, typed in the changes that I wanted to make, clicked make changes public and the whole streatch of river is no longer even on the list of streams in TN?

Every time I try to make an edit to the one stream I try to keep up to date the interface changes and I always have issues, this is the third different stream editing interface I've encountered over the span of trying to provide three different updates on this stream.

To write comments about how to interpret a visual gauge, give season information or whatever, go to the location tab. Seems weird, but it is a holdover from the oldest layout we had.

The flow tab is only for adding or making changes to an online gauge.

I can't find Suck Creek in Tennessee or anywhere, so somehow it got flagged as deleted maybe. Matt or Ryan should be able to restore it for you.

Hmmm, I see two 'Suck Creek' reaches in TN;

[www.americanwhitewater.org]

[www.americanwhitewater.org]

Are these different from what you are looking at/for?

Aside from that, things are as Paul mentioned . . . you only go into "Edit Flows" if there is a real live online gauge available. Otherwise, you just go into "Edit" and click on the "Location" tab to get the "Gauge Description" text-entry box. The only justification I can see for having it here is that if it were put in the "Description" tab, that would make two big text-entry boxes on that page and could complicate the updating of that tab.

Rob Smage
AW member since 1992, volunteer since 2000, Midwest Regional StreamTeam Editor

Suck Creek proper would be below the confluence of North and South Suck Creeks. There are a bunch of photos for Suck Creek that are not presently linked to it. So Suck Creek is definitely gone for the moment. Hopefully it has only been flagged as deleted or something and has not been overwritten. I have a test reach that I keep deleted so it is not viewable on the state page, but it is still accessible when I use the "Manage my Streams" link. It is also viewable when I look at the state list from the streamteam page, so I think something worse has happened to Suck Creek.

I will email Matt and Ryan, since neither have chimed in yet.

Paul

it's back. not sure what happened. please share any errors that you get if you update it.

Suck Creek is back as Ryan said.
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To reiterate the directions above, since you want to edit the gauge description, click on edit, then click on the "location" tab. You will see a box with the present gauge description.
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I saw that there is a url to an accident report, which should be automatically linked to this page. I edited that accident to enter the river reach info and now the accident is automatically linked in the Accidents tab and is also findable via search.
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Several of the photos on the rapids tab of Suck Creek are shifted to the right, allowing rapids titles to shift up and get out of sequence with the photos. Rob and I have described the fix extensively on another forum topic,
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The directions below are from that forum topic.

2) On some reaches with rapids listed on the rapids tab and photos associated with rapids, the alignment has gotten very goofy. Basically photos and descriptions are out of alignment with the names of the rapids.

This bug appears when you have a photo for a rapid, but the rapid description is very short. The photo aligns to the right and the next few names of rapids slide up next to the photo on the left.

There is a simple work around. Start with the first photo that is shifted to the right and add enough rapids description, so that the description takes up more than one line on the final public display. The description editing box is very narrow, so the description will have to be 3 or 4 lines there. When the description extends all the way across the page, the photo will be aligned properly all the way back to the left, forcing the subsequent rapids names to display properly below. Proceed to the next misaligned photo and write a longer description for that one also. Do the same for all the misaligned photos.
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While looking at Suck creek and the map of the area, it struck me that additional general information would be interesting to me and could be very interesting to others. In this case, I see that Suck Creek enters the Tennessee River just west of Chattanooga. To you that might not seem interesting at all, but to me, it helps me get a location fix and provides context. Otherwise Suck Creek is for me floating in this blank emptiness. It is just a name in a vast unknown. I can't exactly picture where Chattanooga is either (being in California), but I have heard of it and it is big and I can easily find it on a map. And I can be envious of the boaters in Chattanooga that they have a cool creek so close to town.

Suck Creek flows off the southern end of Walden's Ridge which is interesting to me because I have not seen that type of geography around here (Fresno, Ca). I would love to see more information about the geography and geology and natural history of this creek and this area.

Incidentally, the link to Suck Creek from waldensridge.com also seems to be broken. Another example of why it is nice to have a variety of websites describing the same rivers and creeks. Never know when one of them will disappear for awhile.