I think flow info is too important to be hidden behind a tab. I guess all i can do is copy the info to the river info. I've started this on georgia streams and will continue on other streams.

Thanks
Brad.

Post some links when you get some rivers you are happy with.

Do remember to also leave the information on the flow tab, as that info gets linked to, when you click on the flows in the state river lists. Copy and paste, but don't cut and paste.

Paul

Another issue that needs to be addressed is removing the gauge name from the homepage.
Before the changes to the pages were made, too many folks assumed the USGS guage on the page was for the actual run. In many cases we use a nearby stream to figure out flows.

Bear Creek in GA is a good example. Bear creek dumps into Lookout creek and the USGS gauge is a short ways downstream. Now one would not want to put on bear above 200 cfs, but you need the lookout gauge to be reading over 1000 cfs to do the run. Hiding the gauge name and the gauge info on a run like this can be very misleading.

The gauge that the paddlers go by at the run is at the put in and it reads in feet. So, our online readers go by USGS to decide if the run is good to go after a strong rain, then need the more detailed info once at the put in.

In many cases this info is under the flow info tab, but once again I believe it to be important enough that it should be on the river description page.

For Paul,
here is one page where I have copied flow info into the description area.
[www.americanwhitewater.org]

and whats up with these links just saying [www.americanwhitewater.org] ????
any logical reasoning behind it?

How to get around tabs if you're a streamkeeper:

[www.americanwhitewater.org]

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BradR

and whats up with these links just saying [www.americanwhitewater.org] ????
any logical reasoning behind it?

I think it is to keep a long link from wrapping.

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BradR

Bear Creek in GA is a good example. Bear creek dumps into Lookout creek and the USGS gauge is a short ways downstream. Now one would not want to put on bear above 200 cfs, but you need the lookout gauge to be reading over 1000 cfs to do the run. Hiding the gauge name and the gauge info on a run like this can be very misleading.

One potential way to handle this is to remove the correlate gauge reading and just provide running/not running and a % of correlate.

Brad axed:

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and whats up with these links just saying [www.americanwhitewater.org] ????
any logical reasoning behind it?

You can name your hyperlynx by clicking on the "WWW" icon (this one: ) in the editing tools above the "Reply" field. Paste or type the URL Location when asked, then paste or type the description:
The Adamstazi Tour
The AW Forum
This Thread (like wow, man, that's recursive--¿how cosmic is that?)
...and etc.

matt Wrote:
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> Brad axed:
>
> and whats up with these links just saying ????
> any logical reasoning behind it?
>
> You can name your hyperlynx by clicking on the
> "WWW" icon (this one:
> [www.americanwhitewater.org]
> tor_tools/icons/url.gif) in the editing tools
> above the "Reply" field. Paste or type the URL
> Location when asked, then paste or type the
> description:
> The Adamstazi Tour
> The AW Forum
> This Thread (like wow, man, that's
> recursive--¿how cosmic is that?)
> ...and etc.


Is there anything that can be done anymore on the AW website that does not involve 6 extra steps? Why do I have to name every link that I post? How about just have the link default to the web address?
Just seeing the [www.americanwhitewater.org} leads me to believe that the link will send me to the homepage. IE 7.0 shows me what the link will be, Safari does not. Either way a more intuitive and idiot proof link would be nice.

rgroth Wrote:
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> >
> Bear Creek in GA is a good example. Bear creek
> dumps into Lookout creek and the USGS gauge is a
> short ways downstream. Now one would not want to
> put on bear above 200 cfs, but you need the
> lookout gauge to be reading over 1000 cfs to do
> the run. Hiding the gauge name and the gauge info
> on a run like this can be very misleading.
>
>
>
> One potential way to handle this is to remove the correlate gauge reading and just provide running/not running and a % of correlate.



If I understand you correctly, you wish to remove the gauge that folks go by to see if a creek is running or not? Is that correct?

In the case of Bear creek and many many others like it, that would be a BAD idea. Through out the south east there are dozens of gauges that folks use to see if entire geographic area's are running. Tellico for the western smokies, Cullasaja for the entire jocasse area, Town Creek for a large portion of Alabama. If you look closely at stream pages thoughout Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and Tennessee you will see many gauges linked to multiple nearby runs. Once the CFS on town creek gets to 400 cfs, one set of creeks goes. When it hits 700, a different set of creeks go, and when it hits 1000 cfs the micro creeks go. So in the gauge description now hidden under the flow tab is where this information is hidden. But for those not privy to the info hidden under the tabs, or just looking at the state pages it would seem that these individual creeks are running at rediculous flows. What we tried to do in the SE is put an asterisk beside the gauges show that the asterisk shows on the state pages. This would highlight folks to check the gauge, but I would still maintain gauge description info needs to be on the main river description page.

Brad.