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Re: Upcoming meetings
Posted by: brentaustin (IP Logged)
Date: April 03, 2008 01:36PM

George:
Not counting the three club donations of $3,300, there were 34 individual donors that contributed $500 or more. A number of them like David Quarles, Burgess Carey, Frank Loudermilk, Barry Grimes made donations of multiple of that. Of that 34 number, 8 of the individual donors were present (to my counting - am I missing 2?) and I am not sure how many actual donor proxies folks held. Still not sure if the "transferred shares" are proxies, shares subject to revocation, or even properly transferred shares. The entity claimed to exist today was not envisioned in 1999 and that seems quite clear. But, it does not matter as long as we all move forward. The EAMG is only somewhat reflective of the original donors, and only some. Donors can have voices through representative of the EAMG and their respective clubs, if they choose under the AW proposal. That honors the donors and gives them an opportunity for increased voice through several organizations, again if they choose to be that interested. In 10 to 20 years though, the donors will likely not be around as much on the river, certainly much less than they are even today. It will be AW and it's affiliate and interested clubs that will be there then and that is where this is heading. But, the EAMG can certainly have a role in this council and it seems the support for this is there. But, the meeting on the 23rd is certainly another opportunity to get interested folks together. I just hope we don't have to repeat the same history to give all persons the context of the issues. I am glad you there last night George and I appreciate you coming up and introducing yourself to me after the meeting. You are a smart and interested guy and it is good you care enough to delve into the issues and try to understand the history. I do hope we can go boat sometime.
Brent

Re: Upcoming meetings
Posted by: ezgpaddler (IP Logged)
Date: April 03, 2008 09:24PM

Brent:
I don“t wish to get into a pissing match over petty details at the moment. I was estimating. I do know that there were at least 5 proxy votes in the room plus however many Dave Merrifield held + the two representatives from the Vikings and Elkhorn paddlers ( 8+2+5+DM thats a rough 50%).

I also don't wish to argue the recent claim regarding legitimacy or illegitimacy of the EAMG, It has existed whether you recognize it or not. The BWA sought approval from that group and the AW (who defferred to the EAMG) over the camping issue just a month or so ago (according to you and Barry and Dave), the BWA voted at your request Brent just last summer to contribute funds to the AW earmarked specifically for the management of the property and to assist the EAMG in that management. Go back to the minute of the meetings and look it up if you don't recall it. I think it's a liitle late (9years) to claim the group as illegitimate considering they (individual representing that group) have accepted near full responsiblity for the management of the property.

I am appaulled that this petty bullshit from Margavege and you continues following such a productive meeting last night.

Gmead

Re: Upcoming meetings
Posted by: dmargava (IP Logged)
Date: April 07, 2008 04:39PM

Georgie, for someone who does not boat, nor helped buy or assist with EA, nor ran or held a BWA office you sure are full of petty bullshit yourself. Back at ya big boy...

Mr. Margavage

Re: Upcoming meetings
Posted by: ezgpaddler (IP Logged)
Date: April 07, 2008 08:39PM

Stuper Dave: Your killin me with laughter

to quote Brent "Peace out Dude" LOL!!!

Gmead

Re: Upcoming meetings
Posted by: mike46molnar (IP Logged)
Date: April 08, 2008 02:30PM

Huh ?

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