Dave, Dave, Dave, I am sorry you hate me so adamantly. I wish you could put this dislike behind you and see that My opinions are not worth this amount of focus or attention from you. If you feel you are doing what is right, be proud of it. In reference to this thread, you should reread and see that it is moving with forward progress and to shit on it the way you so love to do lately is epitomizing what you so hate to see. My second post in this thread was to help me gain a better understanding of where Brent was coming from and he did just that. I appreciate his clarification as it answers several questions for me and maybe others. Your hatred has gone too far, with your post who is being the asshole here?? I will second your motion if you want, as long as you realize that you are in the same boat you feel I am in, especially when you call me a liar, which those with half a brain know to be farthest from the truth. I was hoping that with the end of the past rant toward me we could just let this die, For the sake of all who read this and others that do want to see the posts on this forum move somewhere, Let Go of this disgust. what did I do other than miss Phase 1 of the Elkhorn clean-up? Nothing, so please, for everyones sake, Get off it. If you would rather talk in person and bury this hatchet, I will be at the clean-up tomorrow by 9 am. We can talk all you like while we work toward a common goal. See you then, J

Joey Calder

I will not be on the forum in the future, unless I have to ;-) Anyone is welcome to call me to discuss their issues. 227-5886.

Sorry Brent, I guess I wasn't clear. I was agreeing with your position that lack of secrecy is a problem. The email voting option doesn't allow for a secret ballot.

I also don't see this as a trust issue. I see it as making sure nobody is put in the position of having their trustworthiness become an issue. I wouldn't be for any one officer gathering the paper ballots and counting them alone in a room either.

Meryl: I understood what you were saying. I was just pointing out that last year and every year I have been a member, acting officers will tally the votes, just like Bubba did last year. I just think we ought to trust that arrangement, but, I really don't care if there is another way to tally them in another arrangement. Unless there is a reason to distrust the count, who cares? But, I am cool with your suggestions. Can they be implemented tho by this election? Do we really have a trust issue with anyone counting them if not? I just don't think there has ever been a problem with the tallying of votes, in my experience. But, what the heck, let's implement whatever will work. Who is up for the task of the email count you are proposing? Hanley seems to think it will be something not too difficult to set up. Wanna talk about it this evening at the SC meeting?
Brent
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Ok all. At the SC, it was decided that we would accept email votes for the officer meeting on Tuesday and that for lack of time, we would keep it simple and set it up for Bubba to tabulate the votes and that we would look into more anonymous voting methods in the future. But for now, if you want to vote and can't come to the meeting, Bubba and he alone will know your vote but will keep it in strict confidence from all. If you want to vote anonymously, then you will need to come to the meeting this Tuesday. I expect Bubba and or Mello will advise today or asap as to where and how to send your electronic vote. If nothing else, just send it to Bubba by PM here. There are five contested elections. The current nominees to vote for are:



Hanley Loller, President

Allen Kirkwood, Vice President

Fred Coates, Treasurer

Chris Schardl, Secretary

David Leachman, River Conservation

Meryl Douglas, Membership Coordinator
John Mello, Membership Coordinator

Brandon Jett, Member at Large
Clay Warren, Member at Large

Lloyd Funkhouser, Program Director
Barry Grimes, Program Director

Dave Margavage, Gearmeister
Doug Begley, Gearmeister

Dale Perry, Safety
Wes Prince, Safety

Russell Hampton, Webmaster

Don Spangler, Bowlines

Todd Garland, NPFF

Steve Ruth, Russell Fork Rendezvous