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Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: ezgpaddler (IP Logged)
Date: August 03, 2007 05:47PM

Just because the private donors were members of the BWA does NOT make Elkhorn Acres a BWA issue! Barry you said it yourself those of you who invested were given shares and therefore votes accordingly, so place your vote/s and let the democratic majority rule.

Making this a public debate among the BWA as a whole involves masses of people who have no vested shares in the property, and prostitutes the democratic process already established. Brent does not need a 200 person discussion to vote his best conscience on behalf of the BWA, He was elected as the president to do that. If he needs input bring it up at a meeting where active members have a voice and non active members can be responsible for themselves.

Let face it "You can make all of the people happy some of the time and some of the people happy all of the time but most of the time somebody is going to be pissed of at you no matter how hard you try to do the right thing".

There is only a few legitimate reasons to address this issue (an EAMG issue, not a BWA issue) on a AW website hosting a newly formed BWA forum. The most obvious is to generate public support for a preferred outcome. Resembles trying a case in the media prior to entering a courtroom doesn't it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2007 05:51PM by ezgpaddler.

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: cschardl (IP Logged)
Date: August 03, 2007 07:06PM

There is a lot of energy in this discussion. Asking to pull the thread is absurd and disrespectful to those who have put a lot and time and thought into it. If you don't like reading what they have to say, just shut up and read Harry Potter instead. As for me, it is a useful learning experience. Granted, it means wading through a lot of B.S., but any scientist, lawyer or regular reader of the daily newspaper should be used to that.

Chris Schardl

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: tmiller (IP Logged)
Date: August 03, 2007 09:32PM

OK aside from this forum just sucking, I wanted to give my 2 cents worth. I think we should start a petition to impeach Brent due to lack of local rainfall. If he was doing the proper rain dances as outlined in our revised bylaws, we would all be on the Elkhorn. Perhaps we could string him up and sacrifice him to the rain gods. They just might smile on us and give us some rain. Oh Brent were you an only child? One can't always get their way! tim m

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: brentaustin (IP Logged)
Date: August 04, 2007 12:23PM

Tim: I have been dancing. Rain should start happening soon. Hold off on impeachment. I have siblings (4). You are funny.
Brent

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: cschardl (IP Logged)
Date: August 04, 2007 04:37PM

NAKED dancing, Brent. Someone has to monitor Brent and make sure he's doing it right. I would, but I have things to do. I am sure I must have things to do, and am too busy to watch Brent's naked dancing. Any volunteers?

Chris Schardl

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: Kayak1ky (IP Logged)
Date: August 04, 2007 05:42PM

I know only one naked rain dance. And there isn't one guy in this room who hasn't done it. THE HELICOPTER!!!!

Dallas

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: ferdunerd (IP Logged)
Date: August 04, 2007 10:46PM

The BWA gave $600 to the Elkhorn Acres Management Fund on 5/8/07. As I recall, this was for gravel.

Fred

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: ezgpaddler (IP Logged)
Date: August 05, 2007 12:24AM

So the BWA gave $600 to the EAMG fund, thats great, but that does not make Elkhorn Acres BWA business. Answer me this. Does the BWA donate monies ear marked for Elkhorn Acres because we appreciate the use of the property and feel an obligation to help support it? Or, does teh BWA donate the monies because we wish to gain power over the management of the property?

I say it is the former, because we appreciate it and feel and obligation to support management of it. Equally I have the impression that we donate monies to other worthy causes because we appreciate them and feel an obligation to support their positions on issues and legislation that benefits our interests.

If I am wrong Then I must also assume that the BWA's interests in donating monies to other oganizations (like the one hosting this site) would also be for the aquisition of power and management.

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: ferdunerd (IP Logged)
Date: August 05, 2007 12:39AM

Bill wanted to know how much money the BWA has given EAMG this year...$600. One of the few facts in this thread.

Fred

Re: Elkhorn takeout - AW acres - big budget issue
Posted by: ezgpaddler (IP Logged)
Date: August 05, 2007 09:43AM

No Problem, I just don't want to see a simple fact about donations become a spin about the need for BWA involvement. I'm glad we donated the monies to support the property. I'm also very pleased with the management of the property over the four or five years I've been involved with the BWA.

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