Wilson Creek, North Carolina, US |
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| Usual Difficulty | III-IV (for normal flows) |
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| Length | 2 Miles |
| Avg. Gradient | 95 fpm |
| Max Gradient | 100 fpm |
| Name | Range | Difficulty | Updated | Level |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| JOHNS RIVER AT ARNEYS STORE, NC | ||||
| usgs-02140991 | 750 - 5000 cfs | III-IV | 00h32m | 260 cfs (rc= -0.1 ) |
Some of the bigger rapids include: Mank Above 10ft, Ten Foot Falls, No Name, Boatbuster,
Thunderhole, Triple Drop, Bitchslap, Hidden Eddy, Razorback, and Huntley's Retreat
Between these drops are numerous large ledges with accompanying large ledge holes.
The best description of the river can be found in William Nealy's classic guidebook
"Whitewater Home Companion, Vol. 2"
Benner and Benners Carolina Whitewater has an excellent discription of the river.
Appalachian Whitewater : The Southern States
AFWS Current Rainfall Data for Caldwell
County.
Gauge 1835, Edgemont, is at the beginning of Section 2 of Wilson Creek.
Note added by Garrick Taylor:
Go to either http://www.boatingbeta.com/cgi-bin/myflows.cgi or http://syotr.org/?s=l to find a virtual gauge based on an AFWS gauge located on Wilson Creek. This virtual gauge is far more accurate than relying on the USGS gauge on the Johns River.
The river can be run (sans-portage) as low as minus 12 on the Adako Bridge gauge. -3" to +6 inches are the preferred levels. Anything over a foot puts you into a class 5 day with big ledge holes. The gorge has been run much higher.
Wilson Creek is a tributary of Johns river, and the gauge is about 7 to 8 miles below the confluence. If the Johns river gauge is over about 750 cfs the river might be running. According to the wilsonvisual database, when the Johns flow is between 750 & 800, visuals have ranged from -3" to +8".
According to Regional Streamkeeper Chris Bell:
"Runnable when Johns River is at least 300 cfs and rising; 400-500 cfs on Johns River corresponds to approximately 0 on the painted Wilson Creek gauge. Keep in mind that Wilson Creek is a tributary to Johns River, and that the Johns River reading is a clue as to what was happening in the Gorge about twelve hours earlier."
The Johns River gauge is ~6 hours below the Gorge put-in. Depending upon season & conditions, it takes ~8 to 14 hours for rain at Grandfather Meadows to reach the Johns gauge.
Note added by Garrick Taylor:
Go to either http://www.boatingbeta.com/cgi-bin/myflows.cgi or http://syotr.org/?s=l to find a virtual gauge based on an AFWS gauge located on Wilson Creek. This virtual gauge is far more accurate than relying on the USGS gauge on the Johns River.
| Name | Range | Difficulty | Updated | Level | ||||||||
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| JOHNS RIVER AT ARNEYS STORE, NC | ||||||||||||
| usgs-02140991 | 750 - 5000 cfs | III-IV | 00h32m | 260 cfs (rc= -0.1 ) | ||||||||
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Go to http://www.boatingbeta.com/cgi-bin/myflows.cgi to see the Wilson Creek virtual gauge based on an AFWS gauge actually located on Wilson Creek. Much more |
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| Mile | Rapid Name | Class | Features (Legend) |
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| 0.3 | Mank Above Ten Foot. | IV |  |
| 0.3 | Ten Foot Falls | IV |  |
| 0.4 | No Name | IV |  |
| 0.5 | Boatbuster | IV | |
| 0.5 | Thunderhole | IV | |
| 0.5 | Dental Work | III | |
| 1.0 | Triple Drop | IV | |
| 1.1 | Bitchslap | IV | |
| 1.1 | Maytag | III | |
| 1.2 | Hidden Eddy | IV | |
| 1.2 | Approach to Razorback | III+ | |
| 1.2 | Razorback | IV | |
| 1.4 | Huntley's Retreat | III+ | |
| 1.7 | Railslide | III | |
| 1.9 | Take-out |  |
At the end of a good sized pool, the river will become choked up with boulders. Starting in midstream look for a slot on the right (above Idaho rock) that isn't really wide enough to punch thru. Hug Idaho rock, line up and bang on down. Just below is the entrance to ten foot falls.
(aka Unrunnable Rock Jumble)
10 Foot FallsStart with a 4 foot tall boof, into a tricky class 3 entrance rapid. Then take a left and line up for the big plunge. A ten foot tall 45 degree slide into a sometimes interesting hole followed by a large pool. At lower water, you want to skirt just left of the right center in-stream boulder and stay right of the curler on the way down.
Warning - No Name LedgeLedge drop with a few sneak lines. Sneaks are far right or far left. Boof on the right side of the center of the drop into a very sticky hole backed up by a large underwater boulder. Especially sticky around 0" on the Adako bridge gauge. If you pencil here, a beatdown may ensue (sight of a near drowning in 2006, see accident report 2006-01-07 description). If you pull, the hole will try to keep you and possibly recirculate you. There is a more forgiving slide down the left side of the center drop.
Boatbuster and ThunderholeBoatbuster & Thunderhole are two back to back drops with some pretty fast current. Run both of them left of center above -2". At lower water (<-2") run the far right side boof at Boatbuster.
Usually run left with a little right angle. Can also run the sides at higher water.
The ledge below thunderhole with a man-made wall on the left. There are several lines depending upon water level. Above zero there is a right angling rail with a sharp left turn at the bottom (more fun to slide the rail). At lower water run the diagonal slots starting river right but don't flip or you may have teeth sticking through a new hole in your face.
Triple DropTriple drop is (you guessed it!!) a three tired drop. The main thing to avoid is the sticky hole at the bottom. The hole is backed up by a rock about 8 feet downstream that keeps everything kicking back into the hole. There are two slots that can be used to enter this rapid. Below -5" the submerged rock in the middle drop can launch you or push you into the left wall eddy.
(aka Stairstep)
Another really tight one. Pick your way left to right between the really narrow rock slots or run the right side from the top eddy to the river right eddy halfway down.
(aka Boulder Clog, aka Unrunnable Rock Jumble, aka Fat Lady Squeeze)
At the end of a large pool after Bitchslap where you can look up on river left and see road traffic there is a 4 foot ledge. On the left side of this ledge is a large undercut boulder. Sneak this ledge to the left of the undercut boulder or on the far right of the ledge. Most boaters boof the middle of the ledge over a little chip with some right angle.
Above -5" run the left side auto-boof, but watch the flip rock if you don't get far enough left. Otherwise, run the right side boof into the "hidden eddy" on river right or the left to right slide into "hidden eddy". If you piton the wall get ready to roll.
(aka The Wall, aka Billboard)
Upstream from RazorbackThe largest drop in this section has a piton rock in the center, safely avoid it by boofing the right side.
RazorbackAnother big sliding ledge drop, with a shelf that extends out from the right bank - just to give you something to piton into. The standard line is run about 8 feet off the right bank, then boof left toward the bottom of the slide. At higher water a couple of lines open up, one far left and one on the left side of the main horizon line.
Another large ledge drop. Run left at normal flows. Below 0" you can run the slot between the boulders from left to right.
Railslide is after the big pool known as the "Bathtub" where you can do a fun rockslide on river left. Railslide can be boofed on the left , backslid or frontslid down the sloping ledge or run standard as a sharp S-turn
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predicts what flow will be 3-4 hours after the time of the reading on the gauge. 2.5 is zero. Every
0.1 change on the gauge is roughly 1 inch in the creek. So 2.4 would be about minus 1 inch. 3.0
would be roughly plus five inches. This holds for most boatable levels on the creek. The online
gauges at Boatingbeta.com and syotr.org are based on a more accurate correlation of this same
gauge.
side swirling slide
changes dramatically with flow and weather conditions. At levels below +6" on the Adako bridge
gauge there are a few spots that boaters should be aware of. The referenced photos all have titles
that start with "Warning". 1. Sieve in creek middle at the 4th ledge (usually run on the right down
a slide that finishes in the middle). At -5" (on the Adako bridge gauge) a boat disappeared in the
middle slot but was easily pulled out. Word is that a someone was partially sucked into that sieve
in their boat and they had a hard time getting them out. 2. Creek Right Sieve in Entrance to Ten
Foot Falls - sieve on creek right just below the small drop below the ledge that constitutes the
start of the Ten Foot Falls entrance rapid . If you swim or flip going into/over/after the entrance
drop then you could be pushed right into the sieve. Empty boats have been caught in that sieve.
"Warning - 10ft Sieve" photo was taken @ -9" on the Adako bridge gauge. 3. "No Name" ledge between
Ten Foot Falls and Boatbuster - many people have not been able to swim out of here on their
own...recently one boater was rope rescued and revived using CPR. Downstream of Ten Foot Falls pool
there is a boulder garden..."No Name" drop is at the end of that boulder garden..."Warning - No
Name Ledge" photo was taken @ +1" on the Adako bridge gauge. Above -5" on the Adako bridge gauge
you can sneak it far right...the right side of the main ledge has a very sticky hole because a
large underwater rock pushes water back toward the ledge...the left side of the drop also has a
sticky hole. It can also be snuck extreme left when there is enough water. 4. Creek Left undercut
immediately downstream of Thunder Hole pool - in the "hero" eddy on creek left there is an
undercut. Many boaters like to catch this squirrelly eddy but if you flip in there you will likely
get sucked into the undercut. "Warning - Thunderhole Undercut" photo was taken @ -9" on the Adako
bridge gauge. 5. Pin spot in the drop below Thunderhole where there is a man made cement wall on
creek left. Refer to the photo titled "Warning - Slot Below Thunderhole". When running the right to
left slot move avoid hugging the left wall at the end because it gets very narrow...if you get
pushed that way you can usually squeeze through by dropping your right side down and skirt drag the
rock on the right. 6. Maytag (undercut) - at the end of the pool following Unrunnable Rock
Jumble/Fat Lady Squeeze/Bitchslap, Maytag is the second major drop downsream of Triple Drop. Maytag
is often termed "the most dangerous place on Wilson Creek"...while in the pool you will notice that
the creek left bank is open all the way to the road...this open area is your Maytag reminder. Many
boaters get surprised by Maytag. You can sneak it far left of the Maytag boulder above -5" on the
Adako bridge gauge. Trying to sneak far right can slide you back into Maytag. "Warning - Maytag"
photo was taken @ -8" on the Adako bridge gauge.
installed...look for it sometime in 2009.
is zero...we have found that the creek is runnable without portage as low as -12" ... disregard the
comment at the top of the page that says "...and that the Johns River reading is a clue as to what
was happening in the Gorge about twelve hours earlier." It definitely does not take 12 hours for
the water to go 7 miles - more like 1 to 3 hours depending upon flow conditions... ALSO...contrary
to popular opinion, the Grandfather Meadows AFWS rain gauge is NOT in the Wilson watershed. We went
up and checked it out, confirmed by the iFlows technician. It is actually in the Linville watershed
just off 221 near the Grandfather Mountain entrance. It is not part of the weather station on
Grandafther Mountain as some of the locals will tell you. However, it is only about 2 or 3 miles
from the intersection of the Watauga, Linville, and Wilson watersheds which is at the top of
Grandfather Mountain and only a little over a mile from the edge of the Wilson watershed near the
intersection of 221 and the BRP.
to go is important. First timers should have a good guideperson. FYI.
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To say that the Watauga gauge is better than the John's gauge or vice versa is just plain wrong.
Wilson and the Watauga are separated by a 6000 ft mountain. The two sides can get significantly
different amounts of rain. The simple fact of the matter is that the John's gauge measures the
water that comes from Wilson gorge, but the gauge is below the run and also measures the flow of
another stream, John's River. The Watauga gauge is more or less at the top of its watershed, and
can be used to tell what's going to happen at Wilson in a widespread rain event. It is also a
useful way of predicting the flow on Wilson. It was remarkable how often the old bridge gauge at
the Watauga and Wilson were dead on.<br>
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To make a long story short, if the Watauga gauge is rising but not the John's gauge, you might want
to think twice about making the trip to Wilson.<br>
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Add to this mix, the IFLOWS rain gauges or historic radar data. The Edgemont gauge is in the Wilson
watershed. Bailey Camp and Globe are in the John's watershed. I have seen the John's river gauge
reading 1000 cfs while Wilson was 6 inches below 0.<br>
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Since the hurricanes of 2004, it seems as if John's should be 500 cfs and *rising* before Wilson is
running. By "running," I mean 3 inches below 0.
to be a better indicator for Wilsons then does Johns River. I know there are more complex ways to
correlate Wilsons, but if you had to pick just one gage to check, choose Watauga. Here's the
levels:<br>
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Watauga = Wilsons<br>
<br>
155 - 180 cfs = -5<br>
130 - 190 cfs = -4<br>
183 - 210 cfs = -3<br>
150 - 300 cfs = -2<br>
210 - 310 cfs = -1<br>
250 - 370 cfs = 0<br>
400 is about 2<br>
300 - 525 cfs = 3<br>
410 - 570 cfs = 4<br>
460 - 560 cfs = 5<br>
1000 is about 12<br>
1500 is about 30<br>
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I have an Excel 2000 spreadsheet that predicts the levels for Wilsons and several other rivers in
the southeast. If you'd like a copy of this spreadsheet e-mail me at H2Olevelcheck@hotmail.com and
I will send it to you. I only check this address weekly, so pardon me if I don't get back to you
right away.<br>
<br>
Paddle Safe - Rob Maxwell<br>
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WHAT???? Some incorrect info. Check it out Bros. New<br>
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Forum: BoaterTalk<br>
Re: Wilson Creek JRock New<br>
Date: Feb 13 2005, 19:54 GMT<br>
From: slave2h2o<br>
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Before I go any further, I gotta say that I don't mean to start any conflict. I just want to
clarify a few items. First of all, Unrunnable Jumble is not the same place as the mank above the
entrance to 10 ft Falls. It is the boulder choke after Triple Drop that is left of the spot you
refered to as Fat Lady Squeeze. Now, Fat Lady Squeeze isn't the name of the slot move on the right
side of Unrunnable Jumble. This line is Bitch Slap. Has been named that for at least 6 or 7 years.
Also, the boulder you speak of below, after you make the left turn has always been there and is not
terribly undercut. I boof the bia-tch all the time when flows permit. Now back to the mank above
the entrance to 10 ft Falls. This is one of the places that went through the least change. Never
seen any "undercut/pin spot before or after high water movement of the creekbed. I don't know
what you are talking about here. The section above the mank has changed considerably though now
there's a small flat spinnable hole on far river left that used to be closed off completely. The
next item is the line around the boulder at the bottom of unnamed rapid below Thunder Hole. It is
still the same, always had to catch the eddie to smooth it here. The line is thinner now, but
nothing of any real consiquence. This brings us to Triple Drop. The lines haven't changed at all.
The damn thing will still kick your ass if it wants to. At 6"-9" above zero (correctly
read from the bottom of zero) The hole is awake and waiting for you to make a mistake. At 1 ft the
line is definatly not the same as below 1 ft. Better stay farther to the right and go for the high
boof only runnable at higher flows. Okay now, let me see... Oh yes, the non-paddling locals have
names for several areas of the creek. (ex. The Bathtub, Rat Hole, Wilson Beach...) The Bathtub is
actually the section below Huntley's retreat, and after Goal Post. Goal Post no longer has the two
rocks forming the goalposts. The line can be run the same however. Hugging the right bank ot the
lip, boofing into micro eddie on the right. Can also just run down the middle now without too much
worry. Backing up a bit. The Boof Rock that has been washed away marked the start of Huntley's
Retreat. Below the spot that used to be Boof Rock, the rapid is as you discribe. I only want to
mention that the far left line straight down is good to go, the left line angling hard right,
heading right is good to go, and that the right side boof is either runnable or not. If there is
enough water running over the spot your cool. Just be aware that there are sveral rocks in the
landing zone. If you check it the next time your there. You 'll see that if you know where to be,
it's no problem. As I said already, I don't mean to start any conflict. I just can't grip re-naming
rapids, or over complicating rivers. I have paddled Wilson Creek in all seasons, at all hours of
the day and night. I have run it at levels from -8" to 3.5 ft. and rising, and have been
paddling there for about 5-6 yrs. It is one of my backyard runs that I love and I am completely
intimate with.<br>
SYOTR<br>
PEACE,<br>
Jah Will<br>
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boulder clog (Fat Man's Squeeze I think) right after Triple Drop. The entrance has opened up a bit,
most importantly there are two nasty pin/broach rocks towards the right side about 1/2 way down.
You can get around them on the left or right easily enough if you know they're there, just beware
because the current pushes you right towards them. At higher levels they look to be a nice boof.
Gauge readings still seem to be about 3" off.
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Forum: BoaterTalk<br>
Re: Wilson was at +3 at 2pm. Felt more like +6. JAMESE New<br>
Date: Sep 13 2004, 0:23 GMT<br>
From: JAMESE<br>
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It will be interesting to see what the changes will look like at low water. The water was so high
this weekend that everything was fine but but I don't know what the rapids will be like at -3.
There are changes all over the creek but not all effect the rapids. Most of the trees that line the
banks are gone. The island at the standard take out is gone with no evideance it ever existed.
Rocks are scattered all over but as far as I can remember here is a list of the changes that will
affect the rapids.<br>
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1. The rapid following the pool below Boatbuster is a drop I always called Uturn. The river flows
down a channel then turns hard right around a rock. At higher flows you can run down a left hand
channel but at lower flows you wanted to eddy agains the left hand wall and then follow the river
down the right channel forming the Uturn. Well a large boulder is now blocking the river right
channel preventing the Uturn.<br>
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2. At the start of the boogie water in the rapids above Razorback there was a large boulder that
formed a pourover that was placed there by a flood about a year ago. It is now gone. There are
several changes in those boogie water rapids but there is nothing real significant.<br>
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3. The left side of the rapid below Triple Drop has also changed but I didn't run that side. Just
scout it before running.<br>
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4. Huntley's Retreat, The rapid just below Razorback, is completely different. The boof rock a the
top of the rapid is gone and a class 2 boulder garden is now there. Just below the boof used be a
small slide into a hole that was good for 360's and side surfing. Now it is a rocky 6 foot ledge
into a hole. At high water you could boof it left or run it straight left of center. It looks like
it may be real boney at low water. The lower part of the rapid still looks the same.<br>
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5. After the normal take out there is a slide that used to have a nice surf wave at the bottom, now
the wave is a big hole. In the runnout of this rapid there is a rock the size of a Mac truck that
wasn't their before. It doesn't effect the rapid but it is amazing that a boulder that big was
moved and placed there.<br>
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These are all the significant changes that I can remember but there may be more I didn't see and
more may become exposed as the water drops. None of the changes I saw posed any significant hazards
but after a flood like we just had the creekbed has to be real unstable so be careful.<br>
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your eyes open for changes.