Moose, New York, US |
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| Usual Difficulty | V (for normal flows) |
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| Avg. Gradient | 72 fpm |
| Max Gradient | 90 fpm |
| Name | Range | Difficulty | Updated | Level |
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| MOOSE RIVER AT MCKEEVER NY | ||||
| usgs-04254500 | 2.50 - 5.50 ft | V | 01h13m | 4.64 ft (rc= 0.8 ) |
Getcher Moose Fest
Newspaper here! (pdf file, 10.9 MB)
SAFETY WARNING: Beware of logs and stumps with huge root balls, specifically at
Agers Falls and the Alpine Line at Crystal. You can scout both prior to the release. Alpine
Lumber can only be detected from downstream (a short walk up from the takeout). Agers Lumber can
be seen from river left by the fence. There is wood throughout, which can be easily missed but
would be dangerous for a swimmer. (Thanks to AW Safety Chair Tim Kelley for this warning.)
All boaters planning to paddle the Bottom Moose are required to sign-in at the Fortis
Hydro office (located between Agers Falls and the take-out overlooking the right left side of
Crystal) before accessing the river. On release days a sign reading "Whitewater recreation
sign-in" is placed by the side of the road at the entrance to the office. Click here for the details.
The Bottom Moose is perhaps the most famous, biggest, most important whitewater run in New York
state--the Gauley of the North. Despite occasionally frosty or downright snowy weather, MooseFest
always attracts a large crowd of boaters for the great whitewater with unique drops and the
waycool indoor festival with a small-town feel.
Pool-drop? Try lake-drop! Aside from the nine rapids described below, it's all flatwater. All the
gradient on this reach takes place on the nine rapids. That means that those rapids are
huge.
Generally speaking, paddlers should have Class-V skills if they want to have fun on the Bottom
Moose. A creek boat is recommended, especially at high water, and especially for a paddler's
intro runs on the Bottom. Truth is, there's not much play on this reach anyway.
Releases occur on weekends in October and April. Check out Moose Fest on October 15-17!
From the West:
From the NY Thruway, take Exit 33 (Rome). Head right from the ramp, taking Rte. 365 East, toward
Rome.
In Rome, follow the signs for Rte. 26 North.
Follow 26 for about 31 miles into Collinsville.
In Collinsville, you'll come to an intersection where Rte. 26 bangs Left. Don't follow 26 here;
instead, head Straight onto Rte. 12D.
You'll cross Rte. 12 and follow the road you're on through town. You're now on Center St.; follow
it as it curves to the Right.
After you curve around, take your first Left. Cross the Black River and bear right onto Laura
St.
After about half a mile, bear Left onto Lyonsdale Rd.
To get to the takeout from here, simply take a left after about 0.3 miles onto
Shibley Rd.; after crossing the Moose River, take your first Right onto the dirt road. Follow it
around and park in the parking areas on River Right.
To get to the putin from Lyonsdale Rd., click on the Map or Directions tab in
this page. Follow Lyonsdale Rd., bear Left onto Hunkins Rd., and take a Left at the
T-intersection onto Fowlersville Rd.
You can park in the sandy parking area on River Left or cross the bridge and take the funky sandy
road to putin on River Right.
If you're coming up via Rte. 12, zoom in on Port Leyden to see the roads in that area; if you're
coming via Rte. 26 and 12D, zoom in on Lyons Falls. Then click on the Map tab in this page to get
to the putin.
Latitude/longitude data are verified by GPS.
And now for something completely different: ZoneDoggyDogg runs Lyon's
Falls!
Click here for Karl Gesslein's
view of the Bottom Moose. (Clicking will open up a new browser window.)
If you like that, check out some more drawings here.
Click here for a good
virtual tour.
Check out Karl Gesslein's Nealy-inspired Moose Drawings by clicking here!
Lower Moose (Class
III-IV)
Middle Moose (Class
III)
Black (Class
III)
Independence (Class
II-V+)
Otter Creek (Class
III-IV[V+])
This reach can have two different levels, in a manner of speaking. Halfway down the reach (not far above Ager's Falls) is a mandatory portage at a power plant which diverts approximately 1300 cfs. Therefore, when there's no scheduled release, a minimum of about 4.9' is required. Under those conditions, the first half has big water, and the second half has the equivalent of 2.5' or so.
The confirmed release schedule for 2011 is as follows:
Sunday, April 17
Sunday, April 24
Sunday, May 1
Saturday/Sunday, May 7-8
Saturday/Sunday, May 14-15 (Spring Black Moose Kayak Event, Lyons Falls)
Saturday/Sunday, May 21-22
Saturday/Sunday, May 28-29
Sunday, June 5
Sunday, October 2
Sunday, October 9
Saturday/Sunday, October 15-16 (MooseFest Weekend!)
Saturday/Sunday, October 22-23
Saturday/Sunday, October 29-30
General Chris Koll shared:
"Be aware that the release only allows the flow already coming down the river to spill over the dam. Minimum levels (around 2.5' in my opinion) are typically present but not guaranteed on release weekends. Check the McKeever gauge to see if the river is too high or too low on a release day.
"Please be aware that the drawdown from the upstream Fulton Chain of Lakes will not commence until the Friday before Moose Fest. Consequently, favorable water levels are not guaranteed for the opening two fall weekends.
"For example, as of Wednesday, October 2, 2002, at 9 AM, the McKeever gauge is at 2.94'. This flow originates primarily from the North and West branches of the river and would be considered adequate for the Bottom Moose but a little low for the Middle and Lower sections of the river.
"However, the drawdown will kick in an additional 400-500 cfs down the Middle Branch (which right now is a little more than a trickle). If the river already has a flow around 3, the additional water would kick levels up a half a foot or more--which would make favorable levels for runs on the Lower and Middle sections.
"In 2000 and 2001, we entered the Fest weekend with levels around 2.3'-2.4'. After the drawdown water hit--voila--the level jumped to 3.2'.
"Anyway, just a little bit of rain will keep the river low but navigable for the first weekends before the drawdown kicks flow up to optimal levels."
Levels, according to Chris Koll:
2.6-2.7 is around 500 cfs.
3.5' is around 750 cfs.
4' is an even 1000 cfs.
5' is 1850 cfs.
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| Mile | Rapid Name | Class | Features (Legend) |
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| 0.0 | Putin |  | |
| 0.2 | Fowlersville Falls | IV+ |  |
| 0.7 | Funnel | III+ | |
| 1.9 | Knife's Edge |  | |
| 2.1 | Double Drop | IV | |
| 2.2 | Portage |  | |
| 3.0 | Ager's Falls | III | |
| 3.8 | Shurform | IV+ | |
| 4.1 | Powerline | III+ | |
| 4.9 | Crystal | 5.1 | |
| 5.1 | Magilla | 5.1 |  |
| 5.1 | Takeout | |
| Technical, with a diamond-splitter rock at the bottom. The rock becomes exposed at levels below about 3 feet. It's best to bang through a hole toward the right and ride the channel to the right of the diamond-splitter. There's an optional boof for those who want to provide carnage for their video-wielding buds. (See the photos on the right for the boof and the effects of a blown boof; click on the photos for the full-sized version.) |
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| Scout from the river-right sloping rock face. The standard line here is the S-curve: ride a very narrow shelf on far river-right, then to drop off the shelf and snake your way between two large boulders (first photo on the right). The middle route, just left of the first boulder, is dangerous at low water, as there's a nasty pothole which caused a fatality in 1987 (see the rescue, second photo on the right). Finally, for the adventuresome, there's a niche boof way river right. Better not drop off the shelf early, as you'll be in a world of hurt in the rocky channel down there. If you don't like the look of the rapid, there's a sneak to the river left of the whole thing. |
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| Technical, with a couple of holes. After the pool following this rapid is the mandatory portage at the power plant. Double Drop begins with a right-to-left snaking line around some holes (first photo--click on photo for the full-sized version), |
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| ...and ends with a boof in the middle or left (second photo--click on photo for the full-sized version). |  |
| Whoa, Momma! This is one of the most visually impressive rapids in the East. From a rock at the bottom of the rapid, you can see it snake around for a quarter mile. It begins with a horseshoe hole which can mess with you, your boat, and your plans for the future. Typical, at normal levels, is to boof it left, as in the picture at the right (you know what to do: click on photo for the full-sized version). |  |
| Then, deal with the squirrelwater to line up for the final drop, a fifteen-footer with a spanky hole at the bottom. At low water (less than 2.5), it's really important to avoid penciling in on the right--the rock is exposed and ankle-breaking. At higher water (3.0+), it's harder to make the right-to-left move for the final Falls--but the middle line opens up, so you can bump'n'grind down that if need be. Whoa, Momma!, this is a fun one! |
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| This one's optional; many paddlers take out before it, and it may not have any water even when the rest of the Moose is running. (It's dependent on yet another dam release.) It kinda looks like Gorilla on the Green, but it's not as big a drop and the approach isn't so nasty. Nonetheless, don't drop your guard on the approach, either. It's not quite trivial--as seen in the first photo to the right (you know what to do: click on the photo for the full-sized version). The second photo shows the preferred boof off the drop. You can also run the middle channel of Magilla--just right of the normal boof line. That's extremely tight; it's easy to bang your elbows on the rock walls on the way down (don't ask how I know). |
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| Click here to see some pics, from Karl Gesslein's site, of the easier side (river right) of this rapid, variously called "Backbreaker Falls" and "Spine Compressor Falls." Or check out the shot on the right. |  |
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User Comments
bottom left channel. Always Scout. On another note, crystal has changed, a little. The last drop,
the bottom left waterfall has a smaller window to boof. The water seems to be going down the left
channel of the river alot more, and less over the Alpine Line. On days Alpine line should have been
in, the water didnt seem to go as it used to. Take a look for yourselfs. Cheers, and run the moose.
anyone that was running Fowlersville Falls between 11am and Noon on Sunday or Magilla at around
1:30 I probably took photos of your run. I have over 600 high quality digital shots. Most of them
from Fowlersville taken on the approach to the slide. I was just trying to get some good actions
shots, but figure why let them go to waste. I am in the process of uploading them all to a Walmart
photo group. The link is http://photos.walmart.com/groups/moosefest2007 so feel free to help
yourself. You can also add your photos to the mix if I am not mistaken, so if you have some good
ones of other people throw them up and share. I also have video from Fowlersville and Shureform so
if you are in a Fowlersville picture or saw me standing at Shureform in the red fleece, shoot me an
e-mail and I will see what I can do about getting the video to you. moosefest@howgreatami.com
(where most of the water goes). It is best to run the main falls on the right, and go down the
middle of the tongue that leads into the slide.
Just remember to stay right off the first drop unless you want to scrape up your elbow Edit
be wary--especially at low water.