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Salmon (Lake Ontario) - 2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski


Salmon (Lake Ontario), New York, US

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2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski

Usual Difficulty I-III (for normal flows)
Length 3.9 Miles

Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic


Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic
Photo of Sharon Heller by Steve Graley taken 07/15/01 @ 750 cfs

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
SALMON RIVER AT PINEVILLE NY
usgs-04250200 750 - 10000 cfs I-III 00h57m 1130 cfs (rc= 0.0 )


River Description

The Salmon is a pleasant Class-II stream which runs fairly frequently. It's one of the most reliable runs in western NY. Releases in mid-late summer make it runnable when most streams have dried up. There's some pretty good play, culminating in Titanic, an excellent hole.

It's also a popular fishing river. When the fishermen are angling for salmon, you can find yourself threading the needle among multiple fishing lines.

Scheduled releases, with natural flow after heavy rain.

Directions from Mike Shafer, of the FLOW Paddlers' Club:

Putin: Best place to put-in is at a place called "Trash Compactor."
From I-81 take exit #36, for Rte. 13. (approx 35 miles north of Syracuse)
Turn right, going East on Rte. 36.
Approx 1 mile, make a left turn onto Rte. 2A.
Approx 1/10 of a mile, you are on a bridge crossing the Salmon.
Turn right, just over the bridge, into the parking lot/DEC access site...
...you can see it looking right (upstream) from the bridge.

Takeout: You have to drive through town, to a place called Black Hole (at the wastewater treatment plant).
People in town could direct you there (or check out the map in the Directions tab), but there should be no problem hooking up for a shuttle from the put-in lot. Shuttle's only about 10 minutes, each way.

Sharon sez: "The Salmon has a TON of surfing. The higher the water, the better. Get there at 2000 cfs in the spring if you can."

Check out the Salmon site for some info on this river.
The CNY Club maintains an Events Calendar which might help you hook up with people who have info on this run.

The date of this year's Salmon Festival is not yet known; check the Zoar Valley Paddling Club for updates.

Lat/longitude coords for putin and takeout are verified by GPS.

 


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2011-04-27 09:35:51

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Marys Hole

Detail Trip Report  Marys Hole  @Salmon (Lake Ontario) 2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski, NY(123.20KB .jpeg)

Photo#50941

Detail Trip Report    @Salmon (Lake Ontario) 2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski, NY(1.45MB .jpeg)

Buried in the Salmon River

Detail Trip Report  Buried in the Salmon River  Salmon River, NY(131.98KB .jpeg)

Just Above Titanic

Detail Trip Report  Just Above Titanic  Salmon, NY(142.00KB .jpeg)

Titanic

Detail Trip Report  Titanic  Salmon, NY(45.01KB .jpeg)

Testing out his new Big EZ

Detail Trip Report  Testing out his new Big EZ  Salmon, NY(208.42KB .jpeg)

Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic

Detail Trip Report  Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic  Salmon, NY(27.67KB .jpeg)

Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic

Detail Trip Report  Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic  Salmon, NY(47.68KB .jpeg)

I think this is called Mary's Hole

Detail Trip Report  I think this is called Mary's Hole  Salmon, NY(996.82KB .jpeg)

Just above Black Hole

Detail Trip Report  Just above Black Hole  Salmon, NY(238.61KB .jpeg)

Box Car

Detail Trip Report  Box Car  Salmon, NY(191.59KB .jpeg)

Box Car

Detail Trip Report  Box Car  Salmon, NY(1.05MB .jpeg)

Titanic backsurf

Detail Trip Report  Titanic backsurf  Salmon (Lake Ontario), NY(400.63KB .jpeg)

you know you found the put-in when you see...

Detail Trip Report  you know you found the put-in when you see...  Salmon (Lake Ontario), NY(445.02KB .jpeg)

Matt's thinkin again

Detail Trip Report  Matt's thinkin again  Salmon, NY(1.40MB .jpeg)

i wont try this again

Detail Trip Report  i wont try this again  Salmon, NY(40.25KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

You can get a forecast of the Salmon's water level from Waterline. A bare minimum for this reach would be about 750 cfs.

2011 scheduled releases:

Jun 25, 26 (400 cfs)
Jul 9, 10, 23, 24 (750 cfs)
Aug 6, 7
(750 cfs)

 

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
SALMON RIVER AT PINEVILLE NY
usgs-04250200 750 - 10000 cfs I-III 00h57m 1130 cfs (rc= 0.0 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
750 -10000 cfs barely runnable-high runnable I-III

Report - Reports of Salmon (Lake Ontario) 2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Salmon [NY] Matt's thinkin again n/a Jason Sloan
Salmon (Lake Ontario) [NY] Titanic backsurf 1700cfs Jim Dobbins
1y154d15h31m /Salmon (Lake Ontario)-2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski [NY] Marys Hole 771 cfs Tom Wagner
1y155d12h10m /Salmon (Lake Ontario)-2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski [NY] Account of 09/08/10 0 cfs donald nelson
1y200d13h25m /Salmon (Lake Ontario)-2. Route 2A to Black Hole through Pulaski [NY] Staircase 988 cfs Tom Wagner
5y224d12h10m Salmon (Lake Ontario) [NY] you know you found the put-in when you see... n/a Adrian VandenBout
5y302d12h10m Salmon [NY] I think this is called Mary's Hole 1020 cfs Bill S
6y216d12h10m Salmon [NY] i wont try this again n/a Jason Sloan
9y165d12h10m Salmon [NY] Testing out his new Big EZ 335 cfs Phantom Boater
9y212d12h10m Salmon [NY] Just Above Titanic 750 cfs Phantom Boater
9y212d12h10m Salmon River [NY] Buried in the Salmon River n/a Matt Muir
> 10 years Salmon [NY] Bubba's Girl Surfin Titanic 750 cfs Sharon Heller

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User Comments


2011-10-31 10:11:19 (102 days ago)
baldoam (151663)
When we went through on 10/29 there was a fishing line caught in a tree above Titanic, and hanging
down into it. We were reluctant to surf in there for fear of a hook on the other end. It might be
possible to pull it toward shore from the side of the cliff and cut it but we didn't have long
poles with us or anything to grab it with. Or clever use of floating a rope floating downstream
around it while someone holds the other end on shore. Wish I'd thought of that while we were there,
'cuz the hole looked very inviting, otherwise. (Trick or treat! Bah)

2011-04-23 09:49:30 (293 days ago)
Mike ShaferDetails
Rebar alert: approx 200 - 300 yards downstream of town bridge a broken piece of the river right
wall has settled in the center of the river. At 1800cfs it looks like a pourover as you approach,
but is in fact a wide slab of concrete with stems of rebar pointing upwards (on the downstream side
of this pourover....do not boof).

2010-09-30 08:56:09 (498 days ago)
Tom WagnerDetails
Pay special attention to the fisherman. The salmon were jumping all over. Fisherman are lining the
banks and key spots. Many eddys were occupied by our New Yorks finest fisherman. Give them room and
be careful. Great Run at 2 in the afternoon. Water about 2100 cfs and about 7.5 feet
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
2.7Firemen's FieldN/APutin Access Playspot
3.4TitanicN/APlayspot Photo

Rapid Descriptions

Firemen's Field (Class N/A, Mile 2.7)

An alternate putin or P&P spot.
Heading West on 13 from I-81, take a Right onto Lewis Rd.
Park at the end of the field road and carry down the narrow path, making sure you rub poison ivy all over your legs for good luck. There's a great play wave right there at the putin. Either paddle to the end of the field and carry back up, or run the river to Black Hole.



Titanic (Class N/A, Mile 3.4)

Titanic

Titanic
Photo of unknown by Steve Graley--aka--Phantomboater taken 07/15/02 @ 750 cfs

An excellent hole. At low water (500 cfs?), it's not deep enough to make everything work; but higher, you can play your heart out here.




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