John Day, N. Fork - 2. Dale to Monument


John Day, N. Fork, Oregon, US

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2. Dale to Monument

Usual Difficulty II (varies with level)
Length 44 Miles

F Chee and C Panks, PTCC


F Chee and C Panks, PTCC
Photo taken 05/28/99 @ high runnable

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
NORTH FORK JOHN DAY RIVER AT MONUMENT, OR
usgs-14046000 800 - 10000 cfs II 00h31m 1070 cfs (rc= 0.1 )


River Description

A snowmelt run emerging from the Blue Mountains with the peak usually coming in May. The first half of  the run flows through Ponderosa pine forest and then transitions to the desert terrain of eastern Oregon. This is a classic 3 day trip.

 

Full description in Soggy Sneakers, Oregon River Tours, and Western Whitewater.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2011-03-16 06:03:23

D Spencer in front of Johnny Cake Mtn

Detail Trip Report  D Spencer in front of Johnny Cake Mtn  @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument, OR(525.11KB .jpeg)

near Zion Scope Mtn

Detail Trip Report  near Zion Scope Mtn  @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument, OR(721.48KB .jpeg)

Photo#874228

Detail Trip Report    @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument, OR(115.48KB .jpeg)

F Chee and C Panks, PTCC

Detail Trip Report  F Chee and C Panks, PTCC  @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument, OR(132.21KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The river gets only slightly more difficult (class III) at higher flows (around 9000 cfs). The rapids mostly become washed out with larger waves, and the river becomes more continuous, making it harder to rescue a swimmer. Members of Paddle Trails Club report doing the run in open canoes at higher flows. At higher levels you have a chance of sneaking the rapid "Surprise" on the right, but only if you recognize it in time and there is no wood. You can always go down the middle too.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
NORTH FORK JOHN DAY RIVER AT MONUMENT, OR
usgs-14046000 800 - 10000 cfs II 00h31m 1070 cfs (rc= 0.1 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
800 -2000 cfs barely runnable-perfect runnable II
2000 -3000 cfs med runnable-a bit pushy runnable II
3000 -10000 cfs a bit pushy runnable-high runnable III

Report - Reports of John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
1y285d17h58m @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument [OR] Dick Spencer in front of Johnny Cake Mtn n/a Kathy Spencer
2y261d17h50m @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument [OR] D Spencer in front of Johnny Cake Mtn a good level Kathy Spencer
2y263d17h52m @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument [OR] near Zion Scope Mtn a good level Kathy Spencer
> 10 years @John Day, N. Fork 2. Dale to Monument [OR] Account of 05/02/10 high runnable Kathy Spencer

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User Comments


2011-05-23 02:24:38 (265 days ago)
paddlingthewest (153115)
River flooded at 28K cfs at the Monument Gauge on May 14-15, 2010. Had not flooded this high since
1997 (30K). Only other flood of this magnitude was in 1925. Due to flooding BLM river ranger/Grant
County Sheriff did not recommend running river weekend of May 21-22, we did it anyway. Flows were
approx 8.75 @ put-in and 8.5 at take-out. (Middle Fork was contributing 2K of this amount). 1 14'
raft and 1 16' cataraft and 1 tandem canoe, mixed levels of experience among the boaters. No new
debris encountered (somewhat surprisingly). Campsites and their access were reasonable. No
problems. Shuttle driver reported that a couple of fellas floated river at peak flow. I assume
there were no problems for them. River appears runnable (and importantly, camp-able) at flows up to
15K or less. Open-canoeists can expect to regularly take-on water unless they sneak rapids.

2004-06-01 12:25:26 (2811 days ago)
Karen HensleyDetails
The gage listed above is not the right one for the North Fork of the John Day. Look instead at<br>
<br>
USGS 14046000 NORTH FORK JOHN DAY RIVER AT MONUMENT, OR<br>
<br>
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/or/nwis/uv?14046000<br>
<br>
The river gets only slightly more difficult (3- in my estimation) for levels higher than the max
suggested level on this page. The rapids mostly become washed out with larger waves, and the river
becomes more continuous, making it harder to rescue a swimmer. We put in at 9,000 CFS (on Monument
gage) and floated for 3 days taking out at about 5,500 CFS. Others in Paddle Trails Club have told
me they have done similar levels in open canoes. At higher levels you have a chance of sneaking the
rapid "Surprise" on the right, but only if you recognize it in time and there is no wood.
Both of those things happened to me in my kayak at 8,200 CFS but it is not much harder going right
through the middle anyhow.<br>
<br>
The take-out at Monument is about a quarter mile downstream of the the bridge, on river-right. Peer
through the willows looking for a small boat ramp where there is now a nice parking lot with picnic
tables and a toilet. Some guidebooks still tell you to take out at the bridge.
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