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Red - C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles)


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C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) (Lower Red)

Usual Difficulty I-II(III) (varies with level)
Length 4.3 Miles
Avg. Gradient 11 fpm
Max Gradient 20 fpm

Monastery Falls (Monastery in Background)


Monastery Falls (Monastery in Background)
Photo by Tom O'Keefe taken -68400

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
RED RIVER AT MORGAN ROAD NEAR MORGAN, WI
usgs-04077630 150 - 1000 cfs I-II(III) 66d00h39m 135 cfs (rc= -0.1 )
Low, but could be mildly entertaining. Gauge (114 sq.mi drainage) is 7.7 miles upriver with two dams in between. Dams operate 'flow of river', so should fairly accurately reflect flow in this reach.


River Description

(Our thanks to Mark Mastalski for his fine description of this run.)

This is one of the classic beginner/intermediate rivers in Wisconsin.

About 1/4 mile below the put-in at the dam, the river will swing hard to the left and you will see a house on the river right. This is the first drop. Typically there is no need to scout; Simply stay slightly left-of-center and punch through a frothy hole. This ledge pourover is infamous for being sticky at lower levels and I've see many a paddler get windowshaded while trying to sidesurf. Outflow current is strong and the water is deep enough to allow for some vertical moves (tail squirts, bow stalls, etc).

The next mile or so contains a bit of additional class I-II fun water. One thing to check out is a large rock wall on river left, which is a great place to seal launch into the river at higher flows. You will come to a narrowing which is actually a rocky island splitting the flow, with the majority of the flow straight ahead (the left of the island). This is the site of a sweet double-drop. Depending on the release levels, there can be good front surfs, side-surfs, and spins possible on each of the waves. (You must have good control to keep in the area of the upper wave, however.) The lower wave has a deep pool, and good eddies, as it is backed up by a ring of rock diverting most of the flow to the left.

Below these two ledge/waves the river twists left and then back to the right and you have come to Monastery Falls, class III(IV). (Note: on the topos, this is marked as Freeman Falls, though I've never heard anyone use that name. Some refer to it as 'Alexian' or 'Novitiate', all referring to the former Alexian Novitiate (Monastery) on river left.) Scout on river right. (Avoid going ashore anywhere on the left bank, as it is private property, and has been the site of many skirmishes over trespass through the years.)

This is a terrific drop which may be intimidating to first-timers. The river gets squeezed down to a five foot slot with a 'launch rock' in the center. A meaty hole develops at nearly all levels, so a good 'punch' is required. (I once witnessed a buddy in a WaveSport 'Z' get sucked backwards into it and disappear in the hole, only to be spit out for a swim; quite exciting!) Some gnarly water follows as it drops down to another squeeze and powerful hole develops. Best route is left center and punch through the hole. There is pretty much no consequence as it ends in a humongous pool (virtually a lake). The bottom hole can provide great play, though it may be intimidating to novice boaters. One paddler was windowshaded five times before finally exiting upside-down, still in his boat. A common change-of-pace 'game' during warm weather releases is to bring inflatable 'pool toys' to run this drop and/or play the bottom hole.

Leaving the pool below Monastery, there are a few good rocky outcroppings and boulderbed rock-dodge rapids before the river returns to flatwater again. The next exciting drop is Ziemer's Falls, class II+(III). (Note: on the topos, this is marked as Gilmer Falls, though I've never heard anyone use that name.) The river will turn left, then right, down a small sloping ledge. Many families swim in this area, bodily sliding down the first falls, or taking a 'hydro-massage' in its base. You may wish to get out in the huge river-left eddy to scout, though confident boaters can eddy-hop and boat-scout their way (don't hit any kids!). At good release levels, this initial ledge/hole is fine for surfs and spins, though it can get steep and 'squirrely'. A short pool leads to the right and spills across shallow bedrock. A few minor wave/holes may exist here. The flow then necks-down between walls of rock, and heads straight toward a large hump of rock which divides the bottom of the drop, providing two routes to finish this drop. Boaters may catch an eddy on river left, then paddle into the current and follow the flow down a jumbled chute river-left. Or, you can ferry across current and hit the flow of water on river-right. At low levels rocks may be an issue -- stay as close to the right wall as possible. I once had the excitement of watching my brother attempt this route. He flipped and I heard his helmet bouncing off the rocks.

While most boaters take out at Ziemer's, there are a couple additional worthwhile rapids downstream. There is (or at least was . . . it's years since I've been there) a boater's landing about a half-mile further down which adds a simple drop ('Little Bull Falls' on the topos) with some good depth for squirt moves.

You can also continue about another 1.5 miles to the little burg of Red River, where three drops in quick succession can provide some interesting entertainment. (These are not marked on the topos.) This area may be somewhat problematic for legal access, since it may be posted and fenced. (Again, it's been years since I've been there, but it is worth checking out at least once if you have time and have never seen these drops.) The second of these is rather like a smaller, narrower version of second drop on the Peshtigo, while the last drop (just above the bridge) offers playboaters vertical rock smears and cartwheels down a ledge parallel to the current.

The following video (courtesy RedfshX and YouTube) starts off with a bunch of still photos, but if you 'mouse-over' the time-line slider and click at 2:42, it switches to live action of Monastery Falls.


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Ziemer to the Extreme

Detail Trip Report  Ziemer to the Extreme  @Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(1.85MB .wmv)

Ziemer Old Skool

Detail Trip Report  Ziemer Old Skool  @Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(1.99MB .wmv)

Monastery Blocked, but can slide in

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Blocked, but can slide in  @Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(2.99MB .wmv)

Monastery Blocked

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Blocked  @Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(163.79KB .jpeg)

Monastery Blocked

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Blocked  @Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(146.87KB .jpeg)

Scott Savage

Detail Trip Report  Scott Savage   @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(696.54KB .jpeg)

Dan riverboarding III+

Detail Trip Report  Dan riverboarding III+  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(4.53MB .jpeg)

Dans landing

Detail Trip Report  Dans landing  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(3.75MB .jpeg)

Demo Crash

Detail Trip Report  Demo Crash  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(4.54MB .jpeg)

Mike Demo- Rule 1 - The Only Rule- "Hold Our Board"- even when it gets nasty

Detail Trip Report  Mike Demo- Rule 1 - The Only Rule- "Hold Our Board"- even when it gets nasty  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(3.95MB .jpeg)

Matt taken it. Face Level III+

Detail Trip Report  Matt taken it. Face Level III+  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(932.77KB .jpeg)

Jen Kiecker kickin butt

Detail Trip Report  Jen Kiecker kickin butt  Red River, WI(798.34KB .jpeg)

Ziemers low route

Detail Trip Report  Ziemers low route  Red River, WI(4.19MB .mov)

Ziemers low route

Detail Trip Report  Ziemers low route  Red River, WI(3.79MB .mov)

Holding an edge

Detail Trip Report  Holding an edge  Red River, WI(1.63MB .jpeg)

Breaking Out

Detail Trip Report  Breaking Out  Red River, WI(1.73MB .jpeg)

Going Under

Detail Trip Report  Going Under  Red River, WI(1.64MB .jpeg)

Launch

Detail Trip Report  Launch  Red River, WI(7.95MB .jpeg)

Judd surfing at the top of Ziemer's

Detail Trip Report  Judd surfing at the top of Ziemer's  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(845.50KB .jpeg)

JxsbN

Detail Trip Report  JxsbN  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(782.92KB .jpeg)

Jen K @ Ziemers

Detail Trip Report  Jen K @ Ziemers  @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles), WI(800.12KB .jpeg)

Monastery

Detail Trip Report  Monastery  Red, WI(1.97MB .jpeg)

Ziemer's

Detail Trip Report  Ziemer's  Red, WI(5.00MB .jpeg)

Monastery Falls (Monastery in Background)

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls (Monastery in Background)  Red, WI(5.27MB .jpeg)

The Monastery

Detail Trip Report  The Monastery  Red - 2, WI(33.54KB .jpeg)

Monastery

Detail Trip Report  Monastery  Red - 2, WI(33.54KB .jpeg)

Gaging the flow

Detail Trip Report  Gaging the flow  Red - 2, WI(32.97KB .jpeg)

Playing in the Nyami Nyami

Detail Trip Report  Playing in the Nyami Nyami  Red, WI(1.20MB .mov)

Monastery Falls

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls  Red River, WI(85.30KB .jpeg)

Monastery Surf LAC

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Surf LAC  Red, WI(235.45KB .jpeg)

Double-drop

Detail Trip Report  Double-drop  Red, WI(227.71KB .jpeg)

Monastery Falls 6 of 6

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls 6 of 6  Red, WI(239.08KB .jpeg)

Monastery Falls 5 of 6

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls 5 of 6  Red, WI(231.80KB .jpeg)

Monastery Falls 4 of 6

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls 4 of 6  Red, WI(237.23KB .jpeg)

Monastery Falls 3 of 6

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls 3 of 6  Red, WI(240.11KB .jpeg)

Monastery Falls 2 of 6

Detail Trip Report  Monastery Falls 2 of 6  Red, WI(236.45KB .jpeg)


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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

Visual at put-in. Rocks in outflow channel from powerplant should all be covered for a moderate level, though runs are still good with highest rock exposed up to 8".

The USGS gauge on the Red is upstream of the two dams, thus is not necessarily a true indicator of what is in this reach, but should be a reasonable predictor of available water. Runs are certainly possible lower than the cited minimum, but flows above that cited minimum should provide much better assurance of a good whitewater experience.

Runs are dependent upon releases from the power generation facility operated by the town of Gresham. This used to be on a 'peaking' (as power was needed) basis. However, as of summer of 2004, the lower dam (put-in for this reach) is operating on a 'run of river' basis, essentially meaning what comes into the resevoir (from the upper reach where the gauge is) goes down this reach.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
RED RIVER AT MORGAN ROAD NEAR MORGAN, WI
usgs-04077630 150 - 1000 cfs I-II(III) 66d00h39m 135 cfs (rc= -0.1 )
Low, but could be mildly entertaining.
Gauge (114 sq.mi drainage) is 7.7 miles upriver with two dams in between. Dams operate 'flow of river', so should fairly accurately reflect flow in this reach.
RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
0 - 100 cfs extremely Low-somewhat Low I-II(III) Too low for reasonable whitewater experience.
100 - 150 cfs somewhat Low-barely Low I-II(III) Low, but could be mildly entertaining.
150 - 300 cfs barely runnable-med runnable I-II(III) Low to moderate flow.
300 - 600 cfs med runnable-a bit pushy runnable II-III(IV) Moderate flows. Monastery Falls starts to get beefy.
600 -1000 cfs a bit pushy runnable-high runnable II-III+(IV) High flows. Monastery and Ziemers will both be big and pushy.
1000 -9999 cfs barely High-extremely High III-IV+ Record flows.

Report - Reports of Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
RedC) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Red River Monastery Falls Inflatable Rodeo n/a Rob Smage
Red [WI] Playing in the Nyami Nyami n/a Mark Mastalski
Red - 2 [WI] The Monastery n/a Steve Weliver
Red [WI] Monastery Falls (Monastery in Background) n/a Thomas O'Keefe
Red [WI] Monastery 103 cfs Thomas O'Keefe
288d16h29m @Red C) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Monastery Blocked 320 cfs bryan foster
1y250d17h59m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Scott Savage a good level Walt Ruben
1y287d22h54m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Account of 04/30/10 n/a Mike Pond
1y288d11h35m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Dan riverboarding III+ n/a mike pond
1y288d11h52m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Dans launch III+ n/a mike pond
1y288d11h55m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Dans landing n/a mike pond
1y288d12h00m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Demo Crash n/a mike pond
1y288d14h02m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Account of 04/30/10 n/a mike pond
1y288d14h04m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Account of 04/29/10 n/a mike pond
1y288d14h15m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Account of 04/29/10 n/a mike pond
2y98d14h08m Red River [WI] Jen is tearing it up at Double drop low runnable level Walt Ruben
2y99d17h40m Red River [WI] Surfing n/a Mike Pond
2y99d18h32m Red River [WI] Break out n/a Mike Pond
2y130d17h59m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) Account of 10/05/09 n/a
2y130d17h59m @Red B) Lower Red Lake Dam to CTH.A (4.3 miles) [WI] Judd surfing at the top of Ziemer's n/a Walt Ruben

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User Comments


2011-06-14 11:56:09 (242 days ago)
Rob SmageDetails
(As reported to me, as of May 31) The log is reportedly OUT of Monastery Falls. The wood in Ziemers
is also either gone or far enough out of any normal route so as not to be of concern. Both of these
drops always merit scouting, just because there is little-to-no chance to avoid any wood once you
commit to running.

2011-05-11 09:39:56 (276 days ago)
bryan fosterDetails
Large tree trunk blocking initial drop of monastery. Sliding in below from the bed rock on river
right is possible. See posted photo. Per an email (5-11-11) The log that was visible on approach to
the top of the rapids is now lodged from the beginning of the second pool on the north side to the
bottom of the same pool on the south side as of 8:15 PM yesterday. Only about 5 feet is barely
visible from the south side rocks at the top and is not seen from the entrance to the run at all.
It was definitely 90 percent submerged and is a real potential for a mishap if not known about. The
strainer at Zeimer has partially cleared. Both sides are runnable at the bottom. A chunk of the the
strainer still remains on the left side of the river right split. The large log part of the
strainer is well out of play on the left.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
-7.7USGS gaugeN/A
0.4First LedgeIIPlayspot
1.2Double DropIIPlayspot
1.3Monastey FallsIII+Waterfall Playspot
2.1Ziemer's FallsII+Playspot
2.6Little Bull FallsIPlayspot
4.4Final dropsII+Playspot

Rapid Descriptions

USGS gauge (Class N/A, Mile -7.7)

Gauge is 7.66 miles upstream. Two dams intervene, but are supposed to be operating at 'run of river'. Thus, flow from gauge should fairly well reflect water in the reach. However, it will be subject to certain 'variations'.



First Ledge (Class II, Mile 0.4)

About 1/4 mile below the put-in at the dam, the river will swing hard to the left and you will see a house on the river right. This is the first drop. Typically there is no need to scout. Simply stay slightly left-of-center and punch through a frothy hole.

This ledge/pourover is infamous for being sticky at lower levels and I've see many a paddler get windowshaded while trying to sidesurf. Outflow current is strong and the water is deep enough to allow for some vertical moves (bow stalls, stern squirts, etc).



Double Drop (Class II, Mile 1.2)

The mile or so between the first ledge and the next drop contains a bit of additional class I-II fun water. One thing to check out is a large rock wall on river left, which is a great place to seal launch into the river at higher flows.

You will come to a narrowing which is actually a rocky island splitting the flow, with the majority of the flow straight ahead (the left of the island). This is the site of a sweet double-drop. Depending on the release levels, there can be good front surfs, side-surfs, and spins possible on each of the waves. (You must have good control to keep in the area of the upper wave, however.) The lower wave has a deep pool, and good eddies, as it is backed up by a ring of rock diverting most of the flow to the left.



Monastey Falls (Class III+, Mile 1.3)

Below these two ledge/waves the river twists left and then back to the right and you have come to Monastery Falls, class III(IV).

(Note: on the topos, this is marked as Freeman Falls, though I've never heard anyone use that name. Some refer to it as 'Alexian' or 'Novitiate', all referring to the former Alexian Novitiate (Monastery) on river left.)

Scout on river right. (Avoid going ashore anywhere on the left bank, as it is private property, and has been the site of many skirmishes over trespass through the years.) This is a terrific drop which may be intimidating to first-timers. The river gets squeezed down to a five foot slot with a 'launch rock' in the center. A meaty hole develops at nearly all levels, so a good 'punch' is required. (I once witnessed a buddy in a WaveSport 'Z' get sucked backwards into it and disappear in the hole, only to be spit out for a swim; quite exciting!) Some gnarly water follows as it drops down to another squeeze and powerful hole develops. Best route is left center and punch through the hole. There is pretty much no consequence as it ends in a humongous pool (virtually a lake).

The bottom hole can provide great play, though it may be intimidating to novice boaters. One paddler was windowshaded five times before finally exiting upside-down, still in his boat. A common change-of-pace 'game' during warm weather releases is to bring inflatable 'pool toys' to run this drop and/or play the bottom hole.



Ziemer's Falls (Class II+, Mile 2.1)

Leaving the pool below Monastery, there are a few good rocky outcroppings and boulderbed rock-dodge rapids before the river returns to flatwater again. The next exciting drop is Ziemer's Falls, class II+(III).

(Note: on the topos, this is marked as Gilmer Falls, though I've never heard anyone use that name.)

The river will turn left, then right, down a small sloping ledge. Many families swim in this area, bodily sliding down the first falls, or taking a 'hydro-massage' in its base. You may wish to get out in the huge river-left eddy to scout, though confident boaters can eddy-hop and boat-scout their way (don't hit any kids!).

At good release levels, this initial ledge/hole is fine for surfs and spins, though it can get steep and 'squirrely'. A short pool leads to the right and spills across shallow bedrock. A few minor wave/holes may exist here. The flow then necks-down between walls of rock, and heads straight toward a large hump of rock which divides the bottom of the drop, providing two routes to finish this drop. Boaters may catch an eddy on river left, then paddle into the current and follow the flow down a jumbled chute river-left. Or, you can ferry across current and hit the flow of water on river-right. At low levels rocks may be an issue -- stay as close to the right wall as possible.



Little Bull Falls (Class I, Mile 2.6)

Little Bull Falls is a simple rapids with some good depth for squirt moves. Not far downstream a vacant lot was purchased years back to assure boater access (when the landing at Ziemer's was in jeopardy, and vandalism of shuttle vehicles was common for a while).



Final drops (Class II+, Mile 4.4)

Three drops in quick succession can provide some interesting entertainment. (These are not marked on the topos.) This area may be somewhat problematic for legal access, since it may be posted and fenced. (Again, it's been years since I've been there, but it is worth checking out at least once if you have time and have never seen these drops.) The second of these is rather like a smaller, narrower version of second drop on the Peshtigo, while the last drop (just above the bridge) offers playboaters vertical rock smears and cartwheels down a ledge parallel to the current.




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