Manns Creek - 2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New River


Manns Creek, West Virginia, US

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2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New River

Usual Difficulty V+ (for normal flows)
Length 3.6 Miles
Avg. Gradient 200 fpm
Max Gradient 240 fpm

Double Play - from top right entrance


Double Play - from top right entrance
Photo by John Petretich taken 10/15/03 @ 1"

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
MEADOW RIVER NEAR MT. LOOKOUT, WV
usgs-03190400 1500 - 3000 cfs V+ 00h39m 509 cfs (rc= -0.7 )


River Description

Standard put-in is at Babcock State Park on Glade Creek.

From the 2nd Footbridge down, named rapids include:
On Ramp
Off Ramp
Squeeze Box
Crack
Lunatic Fringe
(Real Mann's Confluence)
Ten Foot Pole
Mann Eater
Hammer Time
Double Play
Bouncing Betty
Pick a Slot
Mushroom
You Ain't Gonna Like This One
Liquid Drano

Gradient, mile by mile, in ft/mi. (from Topozone map): 180, 240, 240, 60/.6

From Jimmy Blakeney:
Just wanted to give an update on Manns Creek, West Virginia for the AW page:
MANNS CREEK HAS CHANGED (4/8/04)
If you run the creek now and have run it previously, you'll notice LOTS more little rocks in bad places. Not that there aren't clean lines, just that they are different now and with smaller margin for error.
ON RAMP is now portaged at lower levels due to the water changing course and making the normal line not so fun (usually a piton to flip into a pourover), but at higher levels (over 3 inches) you can run the nice boof on the right.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS ONE changed a while back and now has a worse sieve, but is still run by some.
DRANO is the most dramatically changed rapid and even many of the locals portage on the right. It's still totally runnable, just worse consequences if you mess up. There's some new wood, but nothing unavoidable. The creek still kicks ass and is still one of my favorite local runs.
 
Brad Roberts noted on 2002-12-14:
According to Jimmy Blakeney on Prokayaker.tv, there is now a short takeout at Keeneys Creek. Keeps the shuttle a bit shorter than driving around to Cunard. There is a road at river level on river right.

 


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2005-12-30 15:49:29

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Webcam gauge 2"

Detail Trip Report  Webcam gauge 2"  @Manns Creek 2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New Rive, WV(48.09KB .jpeg)

webcam gauge 5"

Detail Trip Report  webcam gauge 5"  @Manns Creek 2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New Rive, WV(43.94KB .jpeg)

Goliath, Manns Creek

Detail Trip Report  Goliath, Manns Creek  Manns Creek, WV(33.78KB .jpeg)

Manns Creek 2

Detail Trip Report  Manns Creek 2  Manns Creek, WV(33.85KB .jpeg)

P-Love entering Double Play

Detail Trip Report  P-Love entering Double Play  Manns Creek, WV(45.69KB .jpeg)

Double Play - from top right entrance

Detail Trip Report  Double Play - from top right entrance  Manns Creek, WV(37.50KB .jpeg)

You Aint Gonna Like This - from bottom left

Detail Trip Report  You Aint Gonna Like This - from bottom left  Manns Creek, WV(41.52KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

Gauge info is the same as for Glade into Manns: If the Meadow is running over 1500 cfs, then Manns is probably running. There is a gauge at the putin on the left bank above the bridge above the Grist Mill. It is painted by a concrete structure about 50 yards upstream of the bridge.

About January 2004 heavy rains made some significant riverbed changes to Manns Creek. First off, the gauge is different (actually that changed a while back when the park people modified the gauge area). Zero is now more of a true "zero," with 6 inches getting pushy and 12 inches being really high.

Some of the locals run it at ungodly high water!

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
MEADOW RIVER NEAR MT. LOOKOUT, WV
usgs-03190400 1500 - 3000 cfs V+ 00h39m 509 cfs (rc= -0.7 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
1500 -3000 cfs barely runnable-high runnable V+ Upper limit for best boatability uncertain. Please help your fellow boaters with a comment or report.

Report - Reports of Manns Creek 2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New River and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Manns Creek [WV] P-Love entering Double Play 3" John Petretich
Manns Creek [WV] Manns Creek 2 n/a Matt Muir
340d11h03m /Manns Creek-2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New R [WV] Webcam gauge 2" n/a logan bockrath
340d11h04m /Manns Creek-2. Confluence with Glade Creek to the Confluence with the New R [WV] webcam gauge 5" n/a logan bockrath
8y120d14h09m Manns Creek [WV] You Aint Gonna Like This - from bottom left 1" John Petretich

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User Comments


2010-02-13 05:00:17 (728 days ago)
Robert FarmerDetails
Unguided first-timers should allow at least 10 hours for the run. The first descent took ten hours.
Maybe super-hot boaters can do it faster, but if you don't know the rapids, prepare for a very long
day down to the New River.

2008-02-06 01:55:54 (1466 days ago)
Just got off of a dawn patrol Mann's Run with Todd Richendollar, Justin Burd and Wisconsin John.
(Note: A dawn patrol Mann's run after a night at Charlies is a horrible idea) Great day, good
weather and good water, but LOTS of new wood. We'll try and run tomorrow with a chainsaw, but
there's some bad stuff...here's the skinny. 1) New logs across the top of "Pillage and Plunder" -
blocks the left and center lines at the top. Portage left (sucks) and put in to run the middle and
bottom. 2)Still a log right above "On-Ramp". Eddy out and Portage it on the right. 3) Big branch
blocking the left exit to "Crack". Boof the top, big left stroke on the landing, and the right exit
is good to go. 4) 1 Rapid below "Pick-a-slot", there's a tree in the exit. Easy to avoid...eddy out
right and ferry above it. 5) 2 Rapids below "Pick-a-slot" (directly after the one mentioned above)
there are 2 HORRIBLE logs that block the entire creek. This rapid involves starting on the left
side (going around and island basically) and working back right. The logs are in a blind spot, and
you CAN'T SEE THEM UNTIL YOU ARE ALREADY COMMITTED! There is a SMALL eddy directly on the left
above the logjam. Portage from there. There is also a smaller eddy on the right that works. This is
a horrible place for wood....lots of current, big logs...probably the ugliest wood I've ever seen
on Mann's. The nature of the situation would make it very hard to help a pinned boater....USE
CAUTION! 6) The second rapid below Liquid Drano has a log blocking the exit to the sweet boof in
the center. Run far right.... Hope that helps....Be careful out there! Brian Jennings Edit
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