Little - 2. Upper Two to Eberhart Point


Little, Alabama, US

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2. Upper Two to Eberhart Point (Upper Two)

Usual Difficulty III-V (for normal flows)
Length 2.54 Miles
Avg. Gradient 76 fpm

Humpty Dumpty Boof


Humpty Dumpty Boof
Photo of Mark Neisler by Dave Ward taken Mid 90's @ Apprx. 8"

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
LITTLE RIVER NEAR BLUE POND AL
usgs-02399200 300 - 3500 cfs III-V 01h27m 355 cfs (rc= 0.0 )


River Description

The Upper Two while not quite as hard as the Suicide section above it is chock full of high quality rapids.The last mile of the run from Humpty Dumpty to the Chair Lift is the most continous section of whitewater in LRC, and that makes it a very high quality delightful mile of whitewater indeed .

After a few class 2 and 3 rapids you arrive at Rock Jumble [Screaming Right Hand Turn ]this long class 4 rapids bops down through a low angle boulder bed making a sharp right turn at the bottom.

Below here the river slowly winds though big spooky boulders to Road Block a 100 yds below.Road Block is a one move rapid ,a boof off a 5 foot ledge,that is very clean and simple as long no mistakes are made. The left side outflow of the hole is obtructed by a sloping rock wall that pushes the backwash back into the hole this makes the hole extremely sticky.Boats have been stuck in it for hours and swimmers often get recirculated in it for uncomfortable periods of time.There have been many incidents and a death here in the last few years so be alert particularly at higher waterlevels .

Humpty Dumpty follows quickly.This beautiful photogenic rapid drops between car and house size boulders in two big leaps.The boof at the top drop is an Alabama classic and the hole at the base of the second drop gets bigger and bigger as the water gets higher.

Below here the pace contiues unabated,the next mile throws up closely spaced class 3 and 4 rapids right down to Eberhart Point.Most are unnamed but a few names in order are Mr. Bubble,Roostertail,Whiplash, Empire State,and Deep Throat.This last mile is fast paced read and run and there is nothing that is normally scouted.The hardest rapid is Deep Throat which has some horrible looking pin rocks in the middle of it's bottom drop.Ugly as they are there never seem to be any real problems there.






To get to the takeout, take hwy 35 east from Interstate 59, cross over Little River. There is a gauge on the SE pyling and an overlook of the falls on the east side of the river. Follow hwy 35 east to hwy 273 and turn right (south). After you cross over Little River, about 1/4 mile, take the first paved road to the right to Canyon Mouth Park. The park is now operated by the National Park Service an opens at 8:00 am. Bathrooms are available. The USGS gauge is behind the bath house.

To the put in, go back the way you came to the hwy 35 bridge. Just past the bridge, turn left (south) on hwy 176. You will pass mushroom rock (a rock in the middle olf the road).The park service has put up a sigh, "Lower Two" put-in. Park here, and follow the trail down to the river. About 100' down the trail is a small trail off to the right, about 50' and you'll be on a nice overlook of the river. There is plenty of warm up before getting to Screaming Right Turn.

If you are staying overnight, a good place to camp is Desota State Park. Five miles north of hwy 35 on hwy 89. Primitive camping is $8/night for 2, or improved campsits for $15/night, one tent, additional charge for additional tents, 8 persons max per site. Improved sites have heated bathrooms and hot showers. Call 256-845-5075 for the camp store, or 800-568-8840 for reservations. Cabins and motel rooms are also available, and a restaurant.

There is also free camping at some very primative hunters camping sites in the wildlife managment area across highway 35 .Turn north off Highway 35 about a mile east of Little River Falls on to CR 103, camping site is on the right.There is no water or toilets but it is very close to the Canyon.<br />



Break-in occured 11-13-04 at Canyon Mouth Park
StreamTeam Status: Verified
Last Updated: 2007-01-25 12:00:03

Road Block

Detail Trip Report  Road Block  Little River Canyon, AL(82.37KB .jpeg)

Humpty - small - low

Detail Trip Report  Humpty - small - low  LRC upper 2, Al(116.91KB .jpeg)

Humpty Dumpty's Last Fall

Detail Trip Report  Humpty Dumpty's Last Fall  Little River Canyon, AL(17.73KB .jpeg)

Humpty Dumpty Boof

Detail Trip Report  Humpty Dumpty Boof  Little River Canyon, AL(20.16KB .jpeg)

Humpty Dumpty

Detail Trip Report  Humpty Dumpty  Little River Canyon, AL(20.63KB .jpeg)

Gettin' Some Air

Detail Trip Report  Gettin' Some Air  Little River, Al(40.36KB .jpeg)

Roadblock at low water

Detail Trip Report  Roadblock at low water  LRC Upper Two, AL(115.11KB .jpeg)

Humpty Boof

Detail Trip Report  Humpty Boof  LRC Upper Two, AL(218.02KB .jpeg)

Roadblock

Detail Trip Report  Roadblock  Little River, AL(25.80KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty and Road Block

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty and Road Block  Little River, AL(85.76KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty at -2

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty at -2  Little River, AL(75.31KB .jpeg)

(RM) Road Block - Matt

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Road Block - Matt  Little River, AL(70.42KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty at 2 inches

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty at 2 inches  Little River, AL(89.74KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty Boof

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty Boof  Little River, AL(51.99KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty bottom drop detail

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty bottom drop detail  Little River, AL(79.64KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty Munch

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty Munch  Little River, AL(84.08KB .jpeg)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty - Bottom Drop (Geoff)

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Humpty Dumpty - Bottom Drop (Geoff)  Little River, AL(72.10KB .jpeg)

(RM) Road Block - Scott Bristow

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Road Block - Scott Bristow  Little River, AL(64.66KB .jpeg)

(RM) Upper 2 Put-In Trail

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Upper 2 Put-In Trail  Little River, AL(104.40KB .jpeg)

do the humpty hump...

Detail Trip Report  do the humpty hump...  Little, AL(193.53KB .jpeg)

(AG) Brandon makes a right

Detail Trip Report  (AG) Brandon makes a right  Little, al(77.22KB .jpeg)

(AG) Humpty Boof'n

Detail Trip Report  (AG) Humpty Boof'n  Little, al(60.89KB .jpeg)

(AG) Shannon boofing at low water

Detail Trip Report  (AG) Shannon boofing at low water  Little, al(52.43KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

AL Water Line 800-525-3711, 6, wait for warning announcement to end, 2, 2. Readings is in cfs. USGS gauge at Canyon Mouth Park, 4.5' = 1100 cfs


Hwy 35 bridge gauge on SE piling, seems that cfs-1100/100 = inches on piling. This formula changes yearly, depending on the sedement at the USGS gage at Canyon Mouth Park, and this formula was based on observation in fall 2004 by Rob Maxwell.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
LITTLE RIVER NEAR BLUE POND AL
usgs-02399200 300 - 3500 cfs III-V 01h27m 355 cfs (rc= 0.0 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
300 -3500 cfs barely runnable-high runnable III-V

Report - Reports of Little 2. Upper Two to Eberhart Point and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Little River [AL] (RM) Humpty Dumpty at -2 -2 Robert Maxwell
Little River [AL] Roadblock n/a will reeves
Little River Canyon [AL] Humpty Dumpty's Last Fall Apprx. 8" Mark Neisler
Little River Canyon [AL] Road Block n/a Brad Roberts
4y362d19h26m Little [al] (AG) Brandon makes a right 0" Adam Goshorn
6y322d19h26m Little [AL] do the humpty hump... low Brian Mattingly
9y94d19h26m LRC Upper Two [AL] Roadblock at low water 0" Michael Stephenson
9y94d19h26m LRC upper 2 [Al] Humpty - small - low n/a Brad Roberts
> 10 years Little River [Al] Gettin' Some Air med. Connie Logsdon

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User Comments


2009-03-26 07:22:24 (1053 days ago)
When checking the phone gage, the number prompts have been changed. Press 4, then 2, then 2., NOT! Edit

2005-03-17 17:19:44 (2522 days ago)
Robert MaxwellDetails
The Little River at Blue Pond gage was recalibrated after Hurricane Ivan in 2004. Here is the new
correlation for the Blue Pond gage and the Hwy 35 bridge gage. These levels should be considered in
flux, because the Blue Pond gage will be recalibrated in the near future, as water levels permit.
(3/1/05)<br>
<br>
Blue Pond = 35 Bridge<br>
<br>
500-650 cfs = -2.0<br>
650-800 cfs = -1.0<br>
800-1100 cfs = 0.0<br>
1100-1300 cfs = 2.0<br>
1400-1500 cfs = 4.0<br>
1600-1700 cfs = 6.0<br>
2000-2100 cfs = 7.0<br>
2100-2200 cfs = 8.0<br>
2600-2700 cfs = 12.0<br>
<br>
I have an Excel 2000 spreadsheet that predicts the levels for Little River and several other rivers
in the southeast. If you'd like a copy of this spreadsheet e-mail me at
H2Olevelcheck@boatingbeta.com and I will send it to you. I only check this address weekly, so
pardon me if I don't get back to you right away.<br>
<br>
Paddle Safe - Rob Maxwell
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.1Screaming Right TurnIV
0.3RoadblockIV+Hazard Photo
0.3Top of Humpty5.0Hazard Photo
0.4Humpty Dumpty5.0Photo
0.5Prudential Rock
1.0Deep ThroatIVPhoto

Rapid Descriptions

Roadblock (Class IV+, Mile 0.3)

Road Block

Road Block
Photo by mike stephenson taken 11-110=-2002

Easy move but the hole is hard to escape. Lots of close calls in the center hole. Can be snuck on the right at some flows.

Top of Humpty (Class 5.0, Mile 0.3)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty and Road Block

(RM) Humpty Dumpty and Road Block
Photo of Geoff Kohl by Rob Maxwell @ -2


Humpty Dumpty (Class 5.0, Mile 0.4)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty - Bottom Drop (Geoff)

(RM) Humpty Dumpty - Bottom Drop (Geoff)
Photo of Geoff Kohl by Rob Maxwell @ -2


Deep Throat (Class IV, Mile 1.0)

(RM) Deep Throat

(RM) Deep Throat
Photo of Milt Aitken by Rob Maxwell @ Dry



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