Long Swamp Creek - Grandview Rd to Cove Rd., Near Jasper, GA


Long Swamp Creek, Georgia, US

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Grandview Rd to Cove Rd., Near Jasper, GA ((aka Cove Creek))

Usual Difficulty III-IV (for normal flows)
Length 2.8 Miles
Avg. Gradient 114 fpm
Max Gradient 220 fpm

Boofing, Long Swamp Style


Boofing, Long Swamp Style
Photo of Chris Gorman by Michael Minton taken 07/02/03 @ medium

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
LONG SWAMP CREEK AT REAVIS MTN RD, NR NELSON, GA
usgs-02390475 7.00 - 10.00 ft III-IV 00h32m 3.82 ft (rc= -1.1 )


River Description

This is the after work, after thunderstorm run just outside Jasper, Georgia.

There are a couple of nice runnable waterfalls. The first one can be viewed by hiking less than half a mile down the trail on river left from the put-in. Most of the run consists of bedrock rapids.

At the put-in the creek is about 15 feet wide. Look for all the rocks under the Grandview Bridge to be underwater. There are a couple of small class 3 slides, then two fairly large slides. Shortly after that is the 15 foot waterfall. Off the middle or middle left is usually preferred. The landing zone is quite deep but the lip shelf gives good boofs. Scout on the left to look for trees.  


Below that are some more slides and 2 more drops of note. The first is an eight foot tall ledge with a pretty scary notch on the right. At lower flows you have to run thru the notch. Bring your elbow pads.

Next is an eight to ten foot tall ledge that can be boofed right off the middle. After that the river flattens out until the takeout. There is probably a mile of good whitewater followed by a mile and a half of flatwater to the takeout.

 

There are usually numerous logs to limbo or portage in the lower section below the rapids (which do collect wood as well). Keep a ready eye out for these. They came down during Ivan (2004) and don't look like they'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

 

The dam at the takeout can be run, but the landing zone is only one paddle blade deep. If you run it make sure you land the boof dead flat.

The locals still call this one Cove Creek due to the take-out being on Cove Road, but the maps all call it Long Swamp Creek.

Directions:
From Atlanta take I-575 north to Jasper. Go right (east) on Highway 53 to downtown Jasper. Cross over Main Street in Jasper, then take a left at the next light onto Burnt Mountain Road. Go about a quarter mile then take a right on Cove Road. Long Swamp Creek is the first creek you cross over at the bottom of the hill. To get to the Put-in continue up the hill on Cove Road, then take the first left onto Grandview Road. Long Swamp Creek is the first creek you come to across from a horse pasture.


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Last Updated: 2009-01-13 19:43:37

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Long Swamp Creek, Ga

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Long Swamp Creek

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Long Swamp Creek Falls

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Long Swamp Creek, Ga

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Boofing, Long Swamp Style

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Long Swamp Creek

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(RM) Woody

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Woody  Long Swamp Creek / Cove Creek, GA(51.41KB .jpeg)

(RM) Misc. Ledge (mile .93)

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Misc. Ledge (mile .93)  Long Swamp Creek / Cove Creek, GA(54.45KB .jpeg)

(RM) Exit Ramp (mile 0.7)

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(RM) Bottom of S-Turn

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Bottom of S-Turn  Long Swamp Creek / Cove Creek, GA(40.20KB .jpeg)

(RM) Top of S-Turn (mile .40)

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(RM) Looking Back at Long Swamp Falls

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(RM) Long Swamp Falls (mile .28)

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(RM) Looking back at Bump-N-Grind

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(RM) Bottom Drop of Bump - N - Grind

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(RM) Top of Bump-N-Grind (mile .24)

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(RM) Second Rapid (mile .17)

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(RM) Grandview Rapid (400ft from put-in)

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Grandview Rapid (400ft from put-in)  Long Swamp Creek / Cove Creek, GA(44.53KB .jpeg)

(RM) Take Out

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Woo Hoo!!

Detail Trip Report  Woo Hoo!!  Long Swamp Creek, GA(67.82KB .jpeg)


Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

Visual - this one takes a lot of water.

 

Four Ways to Gauge Long Swamp Creek:

 

1. The best way to gauge whether this one is running is to check and see if there was a major rain event in its watershed within the last 2-3 hours. Also, when you arrive, check the put-in and take a visual. If it looks small and you see rocks that you'd scrape over, it will be even scrapier downstream. If it looks like you'll float over without scraping, you'll still probably be on the low/scrapy side down on the slides and in the rapids. If it looks thumping (but not climbing out of the banks) at the put-in, you should have a good medium level. Again, these are put-in water level indicators.

 

2. There is a new gauge [Long Swamp Creek at Reavis Mountain Road: USGS Gauge] which was installed in 2006.

The gauge is a few miles downstream, and it is flatwater below the take-out, so this gauge is a historical record of the creek's flow. However, if the gauge is reading over 7 feet, you will likely have water. We need more correlations to figure out exactly how to use this gauge. Please post in the comments what level the Long Swamp USGS gauge was when you ran it. 

 

3. Look at the USGS rain gauge and stream gauge for Fausett Creek near Talking Rock, Ga. This creek is ~10 miles away and tends to receive the same rain patterns as Long Swamp. Look for 2+ inches on this gauge in the winter in a short period of time when the ground is already primed. Even more rain will be needed when it has been dry. At 300 cfs on this gauge, Long Swamp was "pumping" according to one paddler. Based on that and timing of recent runs, look for around 2.5 feet or a minimum of 200 cfs on this gauge. We need more correlations to figure out exactly how to use this gauge. Please post in the comments what level the Fausett Creek USGS gauge was when you ran Long Swamp. 

 

4. There is a pumping station dam at the Cove Road take-out. I would want to see water spilling over the top of the dam from bank to bank. In 2003, Rob Maxwell installed a gauge on the river left side of the dam at the Cove Road take-out. It is easily seen from river right. In September 2003, 10 inches was minimum and 1'6" was medium. However, soon after in 2004, the local authorities dug a channel around the left side of the old pumping station, and it now has thrown off the gauge. This new "streambed" is rapidly changing and is in soft ground where erosion certainly affects the correlation, so there has been no new correlation yet. The best place for a painted/stick gauge would likely be at the put-in, where the creek is well defined.

 

 

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
LONG SWAMP CREEK AT REAVIS MTN RD, NR NELSON, GA
usgs-02390475 7.00 - 10.00 ft III-IV 00h32m 3.82 ft (rc= -1.1 )

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
7.00 -10.00 ft barely runnable-high runnable III-IV

Report - Reports of Long Swamp Creek Grandview Rd to Cove Rd., Near Jasper, GA and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Long Swamp Creek [GA] Woo Hoo!! Med. Dallas Shaw
Long Swamp Creek / Cove Creek [GA] (RM) Take Out 1 foot Robert Maxwell
Long Swamp Creek [Ga] Long Swamp Creek 10 (Too Low) Chris Gorman
8y225d11h45m Long Swamp creek [GA] Boofing, Long Swamp Style medium Chris Gorman
9y23d11h45m Long swamp Creek [Ga] Long Swamp Creek, Ga Very Low Chris Gorman

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User Comments


2009-01-07 07:04:48 (1129 days ago)
Travis VatterDetails
USGS gauge 02390475 is 10 miles down stream at Reavis rd. This is a 2006 gauge so no correlation is
known. It was 7' on this gauge when we ran it at 1' on the damn. It felt like a good low-medium
level... ie just right.

2005-07-13 08:29:57 (2403 days ago)
Shayne DayDetails
I was looking on the USGS page for georgia to find a potential gauge for Long Swamp and think I may
have found an indicator. USGS 2381600 is Fausett Cr. which is about 10 miles away, but is on the
other side of the mountain. It spiked to over 300 on Monday when Long Swamp was pumping. Most
importantly it does have a rainfall gauge which may be more valuable.<br>
<br>

2004-12-07 18:22:14 (2621 days ago)
Chris GormanDetails
The gauge does not correlate like it used to...They diverted most of the water around the dam which
is where the gauge is so it needs a new correlation or a new gauge below where the two channels
join again

2004-04-14 10:24:00 (2858 days ago)
Chris GormanDetails
"The first is an eight foot tall ledge with a pretty scary notch on the right. At lower flows
you have to run thru the notch. Bring your elbow pads.<br>
<br>
Next is an eight to ten foot tall ledge that can be boofed right off the middle. After that the
river flattens out until the takeout. There is probably a mile of good whitewater followed by a
mile and a half of flatwater to the takeout."<br>
<br>
I think that is mixed up. The notch rapid is the last drop on the run. And the other one "Exit
ramp" is before this one. The scary notch one has a bad sieve/pinning spot on far right. So
you want to boof the rock to the left of it (but if u dry out and slide to the right then you are
in the sieve.

2003-08-30 15:32:52 (3086 days ago)
Robert MaxwellDetails
This weekend I put a gage up on Long Swamp Creek. The gage is painted on the river left side of the
dam at the Cove Road take-out. It is easily seen from river right. 10 inches is minimum. 1'6" is
medium.

2003-05-14 16:13:46 (3194 days ago)
Chris GormanDetails
At the take-out there is a white line scratched above the dam on the concrete on the river left
side. I was told that if the water was at that line it would be a fun level. It was about an inch
or two below that and people were running it. They said it definitely could use some more water but
they still had a good time.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.1Grandview RapidIIIPhoto
0.2Second RapidII+Photo
0.3Bump & GrindIII+Photo
0.4The FallsIVWaterfall Photo
0.6S-TurnIII+Photo
0.7The NarrowsIVPhoto
2.8Take-outIVTakeout Photo

Rapid Descriptions

Grandview Rapid (Class III, Mile 0.1)

(RM) Grandview Rapid (400ft from put-in)

(RM) Grandview Rapid (400ft from put-in)
Photo of Mike McGhee by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot


Second Rapid (Class II+, Mile 0.2)

(RM) Second Rapid (mile .17)

(RM) Second Rapid (mile .17)
Photo of Milt Aitken by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot


Bump & Grind (Class III+, Mile 0.3)

(RM) Top of Bump-N-Grind (mile .24)

(RM) Top of Bump-N-Grind (mile .24)
Photo of Milt Aitken by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot


The Falls (Class IV, Mile 0.4)

(RM) Long Swamp Falls (mile .28)

(RM) Long Swamp Falls (mile .28)
Photo of Mike McGhee by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot

12 footer? Seems a lot like Baby Falls. Pool is very deep (so far as boaters have probed). Most people run middle or middle left. Middle offers a boof shelf that creates tremendous air. Just don't land too flat from this boof -- easy to do. Most people don't go right, but it looks the same as any spot along the falls. Very forgiving drop, pencil-in angles aren't even punished. Look downstream immediately after you land, there is sometimes small wood in the easy "shoals" just below the falls.

S-Turn (Class III+, Mile 0.6)

(RM) Top of S-Turn (mile .40)

(RM) Top of S-Turn (mile .40)
Photo of Milt Aitken and Mike McGhee by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot


The Narrows (Class IV, Mile 0.7)

(RM) Exit Ramp (mile 0.7)

(RM) Exit Ramp (mile 0.7)
Photo of Milt Aitken by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot

River-wide ledge in the one spot that you feel like the river "narrows". Immediately after the previous rapid. Drop consists of a river wide ledge (visible in pic) with a sluice/slot on river right up against the wall. Preferred line is off the middle with a boof straight down, though many paddlers get up against the wall. Wear your elbow pads if you're doing that right line; it tends to choke down a bit and bang right elbows if you don't bring them in close. Drop doesn't develop a hole at high-water. Nice recovery pool at bottom with big eddy on right.

Take-out (Class IV, Mile 2.8)

(RM) Take Out

(RM) Take Out
Photo by Rob Maxwell @ 1 foot

You want to see at least this much water going over the dam before setting shuttle. The dam is runnable but the landing zone is very shallow. Less than two feet deep.


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