Cartecay - 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR


Cartecay, Georgia, US

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3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR (Lower Cartecay)

Usual Difficulty II(III) (for normal flows)

Clear Creek Falls


Clear Creek Falls
Photo of Steve Rush by Mark Neisler taken Mid '90s @ Apprx. 2.0

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Name Range Difficulty Updated Level


River Description

Most of this section of the Cartecay River runs through a residential area. There are no restrooms after you put in and most of the river banks are on private property. Local outfitters have restrooms and changing rooms.  So, please take care of these needs before putting on.  The outfitters are located on Lower Cartecay Road. You will paddle past cabins and homes on both sides of the river for most of this section. Most of the homeowners are friendly toward the boating community, but they do not want to see you nude, nor do they want you going to the bathroom in their yard. It is recommended that you keep your groups small and quiet and not stay too long at any one spot. In short, please be respectful to the home owners.  

Visit 2. Lower Cartecay Road to Stegall Mill Road Road (Middle Cartecay) for more details.


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Last Updated: 2009-05-20 13:05:42

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Rooster Tail @ 2.3

Detail Trip Report  Rooster Tail @ 2.3  @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR, GA(1.08MB .jpeg)

Crossed Up on Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  Crossed Up on Clear Creek Falls  @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR, GA(2.06MB .jpeg)

Mr. Twister Drop In

Detail Trip Report  Mr. Twister Drop In  @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR, GA(1.48MB .jpeg)

Clear Creek Carnage

Detail Trip Report  Clear Creek Carnage  @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR, GA(1.58MB .jpeg)

Travis at Clear Creek

Detail Trip Report  Travis at Clear Creek  @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR, GA(1.46MB .jpeg)

Wild Bill Runs Mr. Twister

Detail Trip Report  Wild Bill Runs Mr. Twister  Cartecay, GA(41.94KB .jpeg)

Tonya Runs Mr. Twister

Detail Trip Report  Tonya Runs Mr. Twister  Cartecay, GA(35.87KB .jpeg)

Mr. Twister

Detail Trip Report  Mr. Twister  Cartecay River, GA(31.50KB .jpeg)

Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay River, GA(53.93KB .jpeg)

(RM) Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay, GA(56.34KB .jpeg)

(RM) Mr. Twister

Detail Trip Report  (RM) Mr. Twister  Cartecay, GA(34.68KB .jpeg)

10883.jpeg

Detail Trip Report  10883.jpeg  Cartecay, GA(63.64KB .jpeg)

Photo#10884

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Greg Simpson

Detail Trip Report  Greg Simpson  Cartecay, GA(241.30KB .gif)

Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay, GA(151.97KB .jpeg)

Bryan Runs Blackberry Falls

Detail Trip Report  Bryan Runs Blackberry Falls  Cartecay, GA(1.00MB .jpeg)

Bad Day On Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  Bad Day On Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay, GA(102.05KB .jpeg)

Ben at Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  Ben at Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay, GA(136.33KB .jpeg)

Kelly running Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  Kelly running Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay, GA(797.99KB .mov)

GREAT surf at Clear Creek Falls

Detail Trip Report  GREAT surf at Clear Creek Falls  Cartecay, GA(70.69KB .jpeg)


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We have no additional information about how various flows affect runnability (or playability) of this section of river. If you can provide additional information, please either directly contact the StreamTeam member for this reach, or add a 'comment' or a 'report' with your information to help out your fellow boaters.

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Name Range Difficulty Updated Level

Report - Reports of Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Cartecay [ga] 2.2 Darien Fawkes
Cartecay [GA] 10883.jpeg 2.2 Darien Fawkes
Cartecay [GA] (RM) Clear Creek Falls 2.5 ft Robert Maxwell
Cartecay River [GA] Clear Creek Falls Apprx. 2.0 Mark Neisler
Cartecay [GA] Tonya Runs Mr. Twister 2+ Mark Neisler
308d17h45m @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR [GA] Rooster Tail @ 2.3 2.30 ft user: "RiverSasquatch"
1y263d13h09m @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR [GA] Mr. Twister Drop In low runnable level Scott Zeh
1y263d13h27m @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR [GA] Clear Creek Carnage low runnable level Scott Zeh
1y263d13h34m @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR [GA] Account of 05/26/10 low runnable level Scott Zeh
1y277d14h47m @Cartecay 3. Stegall Mill Road to DNR [GA] Crossed Up on Clear Creek Falls 2.30 ft Michael Tipton
5y279d12h17m Cartecay [GA] GREAT surf at Clear Creek Falls n/a Chuck Neese
5y344d12h17m Cartecay [GA] Kelly running Clear Creek Falls low-medium Chuck Neese
6y219d04h17m Cartecay [GA] Greg Simpson n/a G simpson
7y27d12h17m Cartecay [GA] Bad Day On Clear Creek Falls 2.5 ft Jamie Burch
7y243d12h17m Cartecay [GA] Bryan Runs Blackberry Falls n/a Bryan Smith
8y313d03h17m Cartecay [GA] Ben at Clear Creek Falls low medium Chuck Neese
> 10 years Cartecay River [GA] Mr. Twister 1.6 Mark Neisler

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User Comments


2011-04-10 06:56:00 (306 days ago)
RiverSasquatch (152566)
Made the full trip down to the DNR for the first time @ 2.3 Being a beginner, the hole on the right
side of the bottom of Mr. Twister looked a little crazy and of course Clear Creek was very
intimidating, but there was a nice straight line. Most of the videos I have seen of people going
over the falls needed to make a move left over the curling wave at the top, but it was seriously a
straight shot. The Narrows was exactly like its description. A lot of quick moves and plenty of
lines at the top. I chose the middle line instead of going around the right. The middle included a
two foot drop into a area of aerated water. Caught me by surprised how far I sunk and found myself
swimming. At 2.3 I rode right over top of the rock that had "broaching" potential. Not sure that is
accurate at 2.3. This run included a lot of fun whitewater. Wave trains and shoal rapids were
scattered all over the first 3.5 miles. T I wish someone had warned me of the last 2 miles...
NOTHING BUT FLAT WATER! Oh my god.. it was horrible!

2010-04-23 03:14:40 (659 days ago)
Steve ReachDetails
why sher little lady, the DNR takeout is behind the Transfer Station you pass on the right as you
are going up the hill. Go past the dumpsters and there is a dirt road that winds downhill thru the
woods and ends up in a gravel lot at the river. Sometimes it is gated shut at the first mudhole but
it is still possible to hike in and out ... about as far a carry as most of the Chattooga access
points.

2010-04-21 09:35:43 (660 days ago)
Judith RanelliDetails
Could someone post the directions to the DNR take-out?

2010-04-13 10:21:38 (668 days ago)
LCrawford (151700)
Fun add on to the first part of the Cartecay. Mr twister still had a log in it. Clear creek is
great. Fun surfing at the end. Also a sweet jumping rock/seal launch just past clear creek about a
14 foot drop.

2010-03-12 09:34:42 (700 days ago)
WoodyJ (151008)
I will be removing the large tree at the top of Mr. Twister with-in the next two weeks. Woody
Cartecay River Experience.

2010-02-01 05:37:23 (739 days ago)
ilkowski (151381)
As of 1/31/2010 there is still wood in Mr. Twister. A log blocks good part of the entrance, and
downstream about 2-3 feet left from the rock a thick branch sticks out in the middle of the
current.

2009-08-24 02:32:07 (901 days ago)
J.D. GroganDetails
As of this past Saturday, the gate at DNR is now locked to prevent river access due to "Small Game
Hunting" in the area.

2009-07-19 12:07:11 (936 days ago)
Chuck BohannonDetails
Ran the river putting in at Lower Cartecay Road. First portion of the run is excellent. Sit on tops
had a little problem due to lower water levels. Two strainers are present after Clear Creek Falls
and before DNR.

2005-10-11 11:45:43 (2313 days ago)
Ron WILSONDetails
Ran the 7 mile section from the MOE put in at Lower cartecay road down to the DNR takeout. Second
time on the river for me, (did the short section years ago in a kayak), and the first time doing it
in a 16' tandem canoe. This is a great river for those just starting out. There are definitely
plenty of spots to get your heart pumping. We tried to boof the rock on river right at blackberry
falls and this proved to be the first of 2 wet decisions. The other being at clear creek falls
where we went right of the bolder at the bottom of the drop on river left. All in all, for 2
novices paddlers fairly new to whitewater canoeing, This was a great run and I'll definitely be
coming back. Plus, you can't beat the shuttle service provided by MOE.

2005-07-05 17:47:56 (2411 days ago)
Yoga GuyDetails
After a good stiff rain on Sat the levels rose to about 3.5 on the COOSAWATTEE gauge. The strainer
at Mr Twister is almost invisible under water at this level. I think the left line is the safest.
Rob B took the left line fine and I took the middle line ok at this level.<br>
<br>
As a side note, from off water Clear Water looked pretty nasty at this level but was pretty easy
run despite volume.<br>
<br>
At this level there are several very small rapids between Clear Creek and takeout with a couple
pretty nice surf spots (one very sticky, fun one for beginners on river left about 3/4 mi down
stream from Clear Creek).

2004-06-24 13:25:47 (2787 days ago)
Will GosneyDetails
Date: Jun 24 2004, 16:37 GMT<br>
From: river0013<br>
<br>
The online guage on the Coosawattee (just a bit further downstream) is a very good indicator and
nearly mirrors the Cartecay gauge on 52. The key thing about the Coosawattee guage is it tells you
CFS...that's a much better indicator than a ft-in level. <br>
<br>
I normally figure 2/3 of the flow on the Coosawattee is coming down the Cartecay, the rest is from
the Ellijay River. 4ft on the Coosawattee equals 2300 cfs...two thirds of that is about 1500 cfs
on the Cartecay. At 2ft on the Coosawattee it's about 365 cfs on the Cartecay. So while the level
has doubled there is nearly 5 times as much water coming down. <br>
<br>
That's a lot of water coming down a small river bed. As a comparison there's about 450 cfs on the
Nanty (a slighty biger riverbed) and 1100cfs on the Ocoee (a much bigger riverbed). <br>
<br>
Sometimes the Coosawattee guage isn't accurate if the thunderstorms are very isolated...but for
widespread rain it works great.

2004-06-24 13:24:57 (2787 days ago)
Will GosneyDetails
Date: Jun 24 2004, 16:37 GMT<br>
From: river0013<br>
<br>
The online guage on the Coosawattee (just a bit further downstream) is a very good indicator and
nearly mirrors the Cartecay gauge on 52. The key thing about the Coosawattee guage is it tells you
CFS...that's a much better indicator than a ft-in level. <br>
<br>
I normally figure 2/3 of the flow on the Coosawattee is coming down the Cartecay, the rest is from
the Ellijay River. 4ft on the Coosawattee equals 2300 cfs...two thirds of that is about 1500 cfs
on the Cartecay. At 2ft on the Coosawattee it's about 365 cfs on the Cartecay. So while the level
has doubled there is nearly 5 times as much water coming down. <br>
<br>
That's a lot of water coming down a small river bed. As a comparison there's about 450 cfs on the
Nanty (a slighty biger riverbed) and 1100cfs on the Ocoee (a much bigger riverbed). <br>
<br>
Sometimes the Coosawattee guage isn't accurate if the thunderstorms are very isolated...but for
widespread rain it works great.
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Rapid Summary

Mile Rapid Name Class Features (Legend)
0.5Rooster TailI
1.5Mr. TwisterII+Photo
3.0The NarrowsII
3.0Clear Creek FallsIIIPhoto

Rapid Descriptions

Rooster Tail (Class I, Mile 0.5)
A small ledge drop with a rock in it. Run just to the right of the rooster tail created by the rock.

Mr. Twister (Class II+, Mile 1.5)

Mr. Twister

Mr. Twister
Photo of Edward Stockman by Mark Neisler taken 07/15/01 @ 1.6

You will see some cabins high up on the ridge on river left. Usually you will see a bench on a rock on river left as well. Since the bench marks the entrance to the rapid, we call it the benchmark. Run this one down the center and punch the hole. The hole is grabby and will flip or surf an unweary boater. There is a large recovery pool after this drop.

Note: The "Shark Fin" tree limb was not visible at 2.2'.  I paddled right over the spot where it used to be, but found not indication of it.  Still be careful.



The Narrows (Class II, Mile 3.0)
A long and technically challenging set of rapids. Kind of creeky. A pretty section of the river that offers beginners a chance to practice some easy creek moves.

Clear Creek Falls (Class III, Mile 3.0)

Clear Creek Falls

Clear Creek Falls
Photo of Steve Rush by Mark Neisler taken Mid '90s @ Apprx. 2.0

Hazards: Rocks on river left at the bottom of the drop and rocks with broaching potential in the middle of the channel after the drop. The "Narrows" ends with a large eddy on river right. Eddy out here and boat or bank scout "Clear Creek Falls". One can also eddy out further up river on river left below the island and bank scout from there. Run this drop by lining up just to the left of the curler wave in the drop. Keep a slight right angle and paddle agressively. This rapid ends in a large recovery pool. At most levels the wave at the bottom of the drop is the best place to front surf on the river. However, don't flip. There are very nasty rocks just below the surface immediately downstream of the wave.


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