Talking Rock Creek - GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir


Talking Rock Creek, Georgia, US

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GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir

Usual Difficulty I-III (for normal flows)
Length 18 Miles

Talking Rock Creek


Talking Rock Creek

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
TALKING ROCK CREEK NEAR HINTON, GA
usgs-02382200 1.50 - 11.00 ft I-III 01h06m 1.52 ft (rc= 0.0 )
Upper limit for best boatability uncertain. Please help your fellow boaters with a comment or report.


River Description

This was our first time on this river and probably the most remote we've been in GA. Yep them Georgia mountains shore are beauteeful and this particular stream is an extra kewl treat. It was a delightful adventure as we had never scouted it before and put in with boats loaded with camping gear for the first time. All we knew was that it was purdy, fairly remote and that it was a class I/III creek. At 2.3ft there were only 2 or 3 rapids of any consequence and a coupla fun wave trains.

Did an overnighter on 3/18/01 and had and absolutly great time, cept for the flats at the end ... We had head winds all the way thru them. I would not have minded the flats much but the wind really made it a trudge. I can see where doing it as a day trip and ending up with headwinds after a 14-15 mile paddle would be a test of endurance.

We checked the gauge (USACOE) on the net Sat (3/18) and it was at 2.3. Sunday evening when we came back the gauge was at 1.9. Based on those readings and our experience with loaded down boats I would say that that those levels are just about the cutoff point the do T.Rock on OC1s loaded with camping gear. At the level we did it at many of the shallower areas were quite marginal and technical. You really really had to pick your lines well. All in all a beautiful and fun river especially after Talking Rock/Rapids (34.55919N/-84.63063W) where the rapids are fairly close throughout the run cept for the 3 mile flats at the end.

I have put up a website with pixs from this trip at:

http://www.mindspring.com/~pepe3/talkingrock

At the bottom of the page the page containing the thumbnail images I have a link to another page I created containing an overall and a detailed road map showing the put-ins and take-outs.

Someone had mentioned a dirt road that one can take out before the flats. If anyone has any info on this take out please let me know.

SYa'llOTR

pepe

* The "published" total length of this run is 18mi but I retraced the river on my mapping software and the distance I get from the put-in at hwy 136 to the Carter Lake Resevoir hwy 136 take out is 14.67mi.


StreamTeam Status: Not Verified
Last Updated: 2004-06-28 00:55:50

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January 21, 2012

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Gauge Information

Gauge Description:

The only gauge I used to know of was the Army Corps of Engi. at:
http://water.sam.usace.army.mil/rivbul.txt. There's a number you can call to get levels at 706-334-2906.

USGS has a brand new gauge at:
http://ga.water.usgs.gov/rt-cgi/gen_stn_pg?station=02382200

Many folks consider 1.5 to be the min level but after our trip on 3/18/01 (2.3-1.9) and my buds recent trip on 6/16/01 (1.7-1.5) I would say that anything below 1.8-1.9 up to up to 1.5 while still runnable would be real bony.

Gauge Information

Name Range Difficulty Updated Level
TALKING ROCK CREEK NEAR HINTON, GA
usgs-02382200 1.50 - 11.00 ft I-III 01h06m 1.52 ft (rc= 0.0 )
Upper limit for best boatability uncertain. Please help your fellow boaters with a comment or report.

RangeWater LevelDifficultyComment
1.50 -11.00 ft barely runnable-high runnable I-III Upper limit for best boatability uncertain. Please help your fellow boaters with a comment or report.

Report - Reports of Talking Rock Creek GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir and related gauges

Reports give the public a chance to report on river conditions throughout the country as well as log the history of a river.

Reports

When River/Gauge Subject Level Reporter
Talking Rock Creek [GA] [0013] Surfing Talking Rock2 2000->900cfs Chad Spangler
Talking Rock Creek [GA] Talking Rock Creek n/a Joe Paban
12d13h31m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] January 21, 2012 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d13h32m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] January 21, 2012 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d13h33m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] January 21, 2012 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d13h33m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] January 21, 2012 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d13h37m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] January 21, 2012 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d13h42m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] January 21, 2012 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d13h46m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] Account of 01/29/12 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d14h05m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] Account of 01/29/12 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d14h11m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] Account of 01/29/12 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d14h12m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] Account of 01/29/12 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d14h44m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] Account of 01/29/12 n/a Tracy Cruce
12d14h46m /Talking Rock Creek-GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir [GA] Account of 01/29/12 n/a Tracy Cruce
> 10 years Talking Rock Creek [GA] [0013] Surfing Talking Rock 2000->900cfs Chad Spangler

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User Comments


2011-05-22 01:31:38 (265 days ago)
(Gary DeBacher.) I have run Talking Rock a number of times at levels up to 2.5. It tends to get
easier at higher water. There is only one rapid on the run that I would call class 3, Zigzag which
occurs about four miles below the scenic Cedar Cliff. Zigzag is not a powerful rapid, but is quite
technical at low water levels. The course cannot be seen in advance, but can be read and followed
with hard maneuvers during the run. It washes out at higher levels. At one time, there was a
jeepish road from hwy 136 that led just above the beginning of the re-regulation reservoir.
Unfortunately, it did not occur to the Corps of Engineers to improve this road for boater access.
Instead they gated it off. When I first paddled Talking Rock in 1976, there was only one abandoned
cabin on the run, near the gauge. Unfortunately, second homes have harmed the scenery on what was
once an outstanding wilderness run. Edit

2003-11-12 21:42:39 (3012 days ago)
William PierceDetails
Hey all I made the run this last weekend(11/08/03-11/09/03)and had a rude awakening . All the
sandbars that are decent for camping are gone due to a recent flash-flood. This also dumped tons of
debris in the creek (i.e. trailers, sheet metal, small houses, and even cars) nothing major though.
Also a lot of the land has been posted now due to some problems with poachers over the last winter.
A lot of the people are VERY protective of their land so when camping tread lightly. We managed to
find one small sandbar halfway down the run but at normal levels it will be underwater.
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 GA Highway 136 to Carters Lake Reservoir, Talking Rock Creek Georgia, US (mobile)